Dr. Jen Gunter

You're saying that she's the expert and I'm not like, why does that work so well?

Well, because you don't want to lie to people, right?

So alternative medicine is so certain and it's all like, it's about this aesthetic.

I really think that what Goop did was they showed that you can put aesthetic over facts.

You can have this image that goes along with it.

And, you know, it seems like exotic and, you know, all these other things, you know, it was really sort of more Western exoticism of, you know, other cultures, which is, you know, a big issue.

And, yeah, and it's like, well, okay, which is the misogynistic thing?

To tell people that they can recharge jade eggs by the energy of the moon and put them in the vagina or to tell them not.

And, hey, if you're such an expert, how come you haven't taught some solar company how to harness lunar energy?

Like, I want to know.

Why don't we have lunar panels?

Yeah.

So, yeah, so that so so Steve Gundry was part of that that response to me.

And I was just like, oh, God, you know, so and he was he was, you know, tone policing my swearing.

I was like, OK, well, that's all you got.

Yeah, I mean, sure.

I really know what to say.

That sounds like something Barnum would say.

I don't know.

I don't know Barnum.