Dr. Jen Gunter

I don't really know the history of Barnum, so I can't say.

But what I would say is fantastical claims require fantastical evidence.

And so, you know, where's your 30-year published clinical trial?

How come Kevin Hall's not studying your diet?

But if he's made so much money off of all of that, why isn't he doing the studies to prove it?

Well, that's always my question when people are like, oh, but nobody wants to fund the supplement studies.

I'm like, wait a minute.

Why don't the people who are making money from the supplements?

Like, why is it up to the NIH?

Like over 10 or 12 years, the NIH has spent $150 million studying turmeric.

which is, you know, a substance that interferes.

It's like one of these pan assay interference things.

I think the acronym is PAINS, which is like really appropriate.

This is like basically muddies up equipment so you can't even really get good readings and things.

And so we've spent $150 million on turmeric.

Really?

There's no good evidence to support it for anything.

It is liver toxic though.

And yeah, I know there's no good evidence.

Yeah.