Dr Jeni Haynes

And then when we started to make the statement, they came back to tell their stories.

And they went and sat in what we call the integration corridor.

And they're sitting there ready to integrate.

But it now takes from 2009 to 2019 to actually get Dad in court.

So they're waiting 10 years.

They're literally on hold.

Can't go anywhere, can't do anything.

They're waiting to testify so that then they can integrate and go away.

And when we did the testifying...

We went back to everybody and said, well, you know, you were there for the bad times.

Would you like to be here for some fun?

And so people are actually sticking around to do something fun before they then take the step into integration and bringing down the numbers.

When I talk about fun, I'm talking about the ability to eat pineapple.

That's how basic some of these altars are.

I have a girl who only wants to eat pineapple.

That's her fun thing to do.

So it's a bit of a challenge.

So everybody's coming to do something enjoyable because their life was, well, 49 years of hell.

And I'm not going to say to them, little Ricky will not say to them,

it is your turn to integrate now without them actually coming out and doing something enjoyable.