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Dr. John Bergsma

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Pints With Aquinas
Your Protestant Objections ANSWERED (Dr. John Bergsma) | Ep. 583

What have you seen?

Pints With Aquinas
Your Protestant Objections ANSWERED (Dr. John Bergsma) | Ep. 583

Not.

Pints With Aquinas
Your Protestant Objections ANSWERED (Dr. John Bergsma) | Ep. 583

You haven't at all, huh?

Pints With Aquinas
Your Protestant Objections ANSWERED (Dr. John Bergsma) | Ep. 583

It generally hasn't been, except in like maybe 12-step groups or high intimacy groups like that, or maybe with a disciple maker.

Pints With Aquinas
Your Protestant Objections ANSWERED (Dr. John Bergsma) | Ep. 583

Not in the sense that he would personally absolve them.

Pints With Aquinas
Your Protestant Objections ANSWERED (Dr. John Bergsma) | Ep. 583

But that's what got to me was that I began to reflect on this and I realized, oh, this is where Catholic confession comes in.

Pints With Aquinas
Your Protestant Objections ANSWERED (Dr. John Bergsma) | Ep. 583

Because what Catholics do is go to their pastor.

Pints With Aquinas
Your Protestant Objections ANSWERED (Dr. John Bergsma) | Ep. 583

That's how I viewed it as an outsider.

Pints With Aquinas
Your Protestant Objections ANSWERED (Dr. John Bergsma) | Ep. 583

That, oh, this is a great practice within Catholicism.

Pints With Aquinas
Your Protestant Objections ANSWERED (Dr. John Bergsma) | Ep. 583

Catholicism has kind of a customary, institutional, regularized, you know, as it were, comfortable.

Pints With Aquinas
Your Protestant Objections ANSWERED (Dr. John Bergsma) | Ep. 583

Not exactly comfortable, but, you know, a way of living this out that works and that is regular and doesn't require some kind of...

Pints With Aquinas
Your Protestant Objections ANSWERED (Dr. John Bergsma) | Ep. 583

of a new practice within a congregation.

Pints With Aquinas
Your Protestant Objections ANSWERED (Dr. John Bergsma) | Ep. 583

And so I looked at this and I thought, oh, Catholics can just go to their pastor and they confess in a situation of confidentiality

Pints With Aquinas
Your Protestant Objections ANSWERED (Dr. John Bergsma) | Ep. 583

and they get advice from him.

Pints With Aquinas
Your Protestant Objections ANSWERED (Dr. John Bergsma) | Ep. 583

And so all of the pitfalls that I could think of from trying to implement this in a regular congregation were avoided by the Catholic practice of confession.

Pints With Aquinas
Your Protestant Objections ANSWERED (Dr. John Bergsma) | Ep. 583

So I actually grew to admire the Catholic practice of confession as a way of carrying out what James is commanding us to do, confess your sins to one another.

Pints With Aquinas
Your Protestant Objections ANSWERED (Dr. John Bergsma) | Ep. 583

I thought that sounded to me like public confession, you know, which has a lot of dangers to it, which was in fact how the church practiced confession.

Pints With Aquinas
Your Protestant Objections ANSWERED (Dr. John Bergsma) | Ep. 583

Right.

Pints With Aquinas
Your Protestant Objections ANSWERED (Dr. John Bergsma) | Ep. 583

You know, since the priest represents the congregation and acts in persona Christi,

Pints With Aquinas
Your Protestant Objections ANSWERED (Dr. John Bergsma) | Ep. 583

When we confess to the priest, it is, in a sense, confessing to the church.