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Dr. John Bergsma

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Pints With Aquinas
Your Protestant Objections ANSWERED (Dr. John Bergsma) | Ep. 583

You should only do that to God.

Pints With Aquinas
Your Protestant Objections ANSWERED (Dr. John Bergsma) | Ep. 583

So what we're seeing is, um,

Pints With Aquinas
Your Protestant Objections ANSWERED (Dr. John Bergsma) | Ep. 583

There's a kind of honoring that's appropriate for human beings, and then there's an honoring that's only appropriate to God.

Pints With Aquinas
Your Protestant Objections ANSWERED (Dr. John Bergsma) | Ep. 583

Both kinds of honoring show up in the Bible, but even biblical Greek does not have a word to make the distinction.

Pints With Aquinas
Your Protestant Objections ANSWERED (Dr. John Bergsma) | Ep. 583

And this is often the trouble in church history is that the language of scripture oftentimes doesn't make all the distinctions that we need to make in the Christian life, and so we need to come up with new terminology.

Pints With Aquinas
Your Protestant Objections ANSWERED (Dr. John Bergsma) | Ep. 583

Now, that was a struggle.

Pints With Aquinas
Your Protestant Objections ANSWERED (Dr. John Bergsma) | Ep. 583

The church had to get past that in the early ages, and there were some early bishops and so on that objected and said, no, I don't wanna use any words that aren't used in sacred scripture.

Pints With Aquinas
Your Protestant Objections ANSWERED (Dr. John Bergsma) | Ep. 583

But we were forced to, like Trinity, for example.

Pints With Aquinas
Your Protestant Objections ANSWERED (Dr. John Bergsma) | Ep. 583

Most people do not have a trouble with the Trinity.

Pints With Aquinas
Your Protestant Objections ANSWERED (Dr. John Bergsma) | Ep. 583

but it is a non-biblical word.

Pints With Aquinas
Your Protestant Objections ANSWERED (Dr. John Bergsma) | Ep. 583

So all we have in the New Testament is proskuneo, which means to fall down or to worship, to bend the knee, something like that.

Pints With Aquinas
Your Protestant Objections ANSWERED (Dr. John Bergsma) | Ep. 583

So later the church had to make a distinction.

Pints With Aquinas
Your Protestant Objections ANSWERED (Dr. John Bergsma) | Ep. 583

What kind of honor, you know, just as you would kiss a picture of your mother or of your wife,

Pints With Aquinas
Your Protestant Objections ANSWERED (Dr. John Bergsma) | Ep. 583

you can kiss a picture of the blessed mother, who's our mother in grace, okay?

Pints With Aquinas
Your Protestant Objections ANSWERED (Dr. John Bergsma) | Ep. 583

But what is that called and what kind of interior act is that?

Pints With Aquinas
Your Protestant Objections ANSWERED (Dr. John Bergsma) | Ep. 583

And so the church came up with these distinctions.

Pints With Aquinas
Your Protestant Objections ANSWERED (Dr. John Bergsma) | Ep. 583

So there's...

Pints With Aquinas
Your Protestant Objections ANSWERED (Dr. John Bergsma) | Ep. 583

There's dulia, which is kind of a veneration or an honoring.

Pints With Aquinas
Your Protestant Objections ANSWERED (Dr. John Bergsma) | Ep. 583

And this is the honor that we show to saints who lived holy lives.

Pints With Aquinas
Your Protestant Objections ANSWERED (Dr. John Bergsma) | Ep. 583

We have respect for them as older brothers and sisters in Christ.