Dr. John Bergsma

But he broke the rules and he violated the protocol and he would quote from scripture to defend Catholic teaching.

And that blew me away because I'd never met a Catholic who could defend their faith from scripture before.

But so I remember at one time getting close and I was like,

The Catholic face was starting to make headway with me.

And then a friend of his brought over a child's catechism book, picture book for us.

And this children's catechism was trying to explain Mary as co-mediatrix to children.

And it had this illustration with like the love of Jesus pouring out from his sacred heart on the cross.

And it was like making this beam of flaming love down to the heart of Mary and her immaculate heart was inflamed.

And then it was flowing from her heart down towards our hearts.

So like,

This is weird.

This is Mariolatry.

This is an additional redeeming person.

They're making Mary into a fourth person of the Trinity.

And so I remember getting really scared and like, oh my gosh, I gotta stop this Catholic stuff.

I gotta back up.

This is getting bizarre.

And so I backed up for about a week.

And then after a week, just the beauty of it started drawing me again.

I'm like, okay, you know, I can't deny the beauty of this.