Dr John Izzo

We cannot continue to live in our little cultural toxic tribes that have been created, I have to say, largely, I think, by bot farms in Siberia, designed to hit people's limbic systems, hijack their whole kind of righteous anger.

And it's easier to shout out to your neighbour than it is to address the magnitude of everything that's wrong.

And you can feel good that you've achieved something because you've made them feel bad.

And this is not a model that sees us through the next century, never mind the next millennium.

So it seems to me quite urgent that we somehow do create the capacities to speak across divides.

And Rebecca Solnit's A Paradise Made in Hell is a really good example of this.

If there's an immediate...

big enough scale crisis people will help each other regardless of what their perceived politics or gender or sexuality or color or any of the rest of it people become people but if we wait until the climate particularly biophysical breakdown is that

then we are toast because it's not something you just clear up the debris and rebuild from.

It will accelerate beyond.

So if you had infinite funds, let's leave aside the fact that this would cost a lot of money to make it happen.

If somebody dumped a crypto something on you, how would you go about creating intergenerational, interracial, intergender, interparty, intertribal

connections in a way that would help us to discover our common values?

And crucially, the question is aiming to what do you think those common values could be that we would get to?

And how do we assess that?

Upon what criteria do we decide it's working?

Sure.

As long as we get back to how do we reshape governance models, then yes.

I would say to both of you, though, it feels to me that we're still playing in a relatively small pool and that actually that pool, the whole pool is not fit for purpose.

The entirety of the predatory capital death model has not been fit for purpose ever and is now absolutely a self-destructive algorithm.