Dr. Jonathann Kuo

It's, you know, there's IV forms of ketamine.

There are, you know, sublingual prescriptions that you can get.

You know, as an anesthesiologist, I have a lot of experience with ketamine, working over the past 18 years with ketamine.

Really?

It does need to be done very carefully, though, okay?

Ketamine is just like any other substance.

It can be very addictive, you know?

I think it's a great substitute for...

Alcohol, all right, as in, like, would I rather have people be on a little bit of sublingual ketamine in a controlled fashion rather than go out and have five or six drinks?

You definitely have less harm with sublingual ketamine than you do with alcohol, okay, from both a personal health perspective and a societal perspective.

That makes sense.

Yeah, that's a controversial topic right there.

Yeah, that's a no-brainer to, you know, when you really think about it.

You know, is it kind of accepted out there as practice?

Yeah, psychedelics have always been demonized.

Yeah, yeah.

I mean, I think the, you know, ketamine is not technically a true psychedelic, but I really do find it's very useful in certain cases.

Like, you know...

for social anxiety, for harm reduction in alcohol consumption, for some of these deep dives that you can do psychologically.

You're going to really go to places in your mind that you just can't go to in your default mode network state.