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Dr. Jonathan Kuo Reveals The Ultimate Biohacking Guide... | DSH #2021

16 Jun 2026

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Chapter 1: What are the main issues with the traditional healthcare system?

0.2 - 17.216 Sean Kelly

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132.989 - 151.911 Dr. Jonathann Kuo

The system is all jigged to disincentivize just proper care. When a primary care doctor is paid 60 bucks for a follow-up consult, they're incentivized to get you out of the office as soon as they can, but not talk to you about like diet, sleep, and exercise. Like that's just fundamentally doesn't really align. I was in that world. I built a practice in that world.

151.931 - 170.708 Dr. Jonathann Kuo

And the only way to survive was like, literally you have to see 30 patients a day. We test a lot of people. We test almost everyone these days for toxins. Almost everyone comes up positive for PFAS, glyphosate, plastics, organic pesticide, all sorts of stuff. Unfortunately, it's pretty hard to avoid in this day and age.

178.282 - 188.041 Sean Kelly

All right, guys. Got Dr. Jonathan Kuo here today from Extension Health all the way from New York, who is here in town for Enhanced Games, which was a blast. Good to see you, man. Good to see you, man. What an event.

Chapter 2: How does Dr. Kuo define longevity medicine?

188.602 - 189.704 Sean Kelly

So much fun. So much fun.

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190.365 - 204.616 Dr. Jonathann Kuo

And you're part of the medical staff there? Yeah, I'm a part of the Independent Medical Commission, taking a look over the athletes' charts, making sure that they're safe. Yeah. And... Yeah. I also helped Enhance Game formulate some of their supplements. Yeah.

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204.716 - 211.389 Sean Kelly

One of them's right here. Longer. These were all over the event. Yeah. There was a couple of different supplements you helped make, right?

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211.729 - 211.99 Dr. Jonathann Kuo

Yeah.

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212.05 - 217.761 Sean Kelly

It was the longer and the stronger formulations. Nice. Yeah. And that's your bread and butter, right?

217.841 - 221.368 Dr. Jonathann Kuo

Yeah. Well, performance enhancements, human optimization is by bread and butter.

221.488 - 226.636 Sean Kelly

Yeah. We'll dive into some of the stuff you offer. Yeah. For people that don't know what Extension Health is, let's start there.

227.057 - 245.278 Dr. Jonathann Kuo

Sure. What's that about? Yeah, Extension Health, we're based in New York City. We're a longevity center. We offer some of the most advanced diagnostics and therapeutics on the market. But what we really specialize in is in personalized precision medicine, going really deep into your biology, figuring out plans to really comprehensively evaluate patients.

245.258 - 268.583 Sean Kelly

you and get yourself on the right plan whether it's peptides stem cells supplements like we create a whole plan for you nice and so that's what we do deep dive medicine yeah it's needed right now peptides is the number one most searched term in the world on google wow isn't that crazy that is crazy people are very interested yeah i think because um it's almost like a shortcut right

Chapter 3: What role do peptides play in health optimization?

405.706 - 430.819 Dr. Jonathann Kuo

removing a lot of the inflammatory proteins and cytokines. And so the stuff that you've built up over life that you can't necessarily excrete yourself. And so over time, this burden is in your system. And the way to kind of remove it is through this procedure called TPE. We really live in a toxic environment these days. So a lot of the environmental chemicals, the plastics, the glyphosate, the

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430.799 - 435.249 Dr. Jonathann Kuo

that mold, all that stuff accumulates, and this is a way to physically remove that.

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435.43 - 454.869 Sean Kelly

Yeah. I've seen a lot of notable people using this lately. Gary Brekka, Kevin O'Leary. Yeah. Kevin, I think, flew to Dubai or something to do it. Yeah. You could just do it in New York, man. You could just do it. You can do it in the U.S. I think he's got an apartment out there. But they were talking about it for microplastics. And I think even, did Brian Johnson do this? Do you know?

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455.189 - 460.076 Sean Kelly

Yes, he did. Yeah, so Brian did it. And I think he measured his microplastics before and after or something.

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460.416 - 482.746 Dr. Jonathann Kuo

And it completely went away. I wouldn't say it completely goes away. You know, microplastic exposure is impossible to avoid these days. I mean, you can decrease your levels and control your exposure, but... I wouldn't say that it completely goes away. Well, if you measure it as before and after, I think it was like 90% or something went away. Yeah, it does decrease.

484.027 - 505.575 Dr. Jonathann Kuo

But more than microplastics, I think it's a lot of the inflammatory mediators and some of these cytokines and immune complexes that can kind of hinder your system over time. You still don't exactly know how dangerous or the effects of microplastics are on your systems. We do know that it's not great, but I don't think it's been well quantified yet. We just know it's in all of our balls.

506.095 - 508.138 Dr. Jonathann Kuo

All over the breast. Yeah. And everywhere.

508.158 - 512.483 Sean Kelly

And the heart. And the heart. Yeah, crazy. It's a big problem. When do you think we'll know what it does?

512.543 - 536.534 Dr. Jonathann Kuo

Like, you think we won't ever know? I think, you know, science is going to figure some more things out. But, you know, the toxins are a very complex interplay of systems. Like, we test a lot of people. We test almost everyone these days for toxins. Almost everyone comes up positive for it. PFAS, glyphosates, plastics, organic pesticides, all sorts of stuff.

Chapter 4: What are the limitations of traditional bloodwork?

568.658 - 584.04 Sean Kelly

Yeah. But now that's not enough, I think. That's really not. You know what I mean? Yeah. Just because it has organic. It doesn't really mean. APL just passed to qualify for organic. That's right. You know what I mean? That's not enough anymore. That's not enough anymore. So for me, I'm like, I don't even know where to go.

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584.08 - 589.608 Sean Kelly

Because farmer's markets are cool, but you don't know what you're dealing with, I guess. There's no label.

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589.949 - 590.37 Dr. Jonathann Kuo

Yeah.

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590.69 - 609.417 Dr. Jonathann Kuo

I mean, I live in New York. I love to shop at the local farmer's market, you know, upstate New York, Long Island kind of thing. But I mean, I think that's the best I can do right now if you live in the U.S. Yeah. Grocery stores are getting more and more. I don't know the word, but. Yeah. Can't trust the stuff you get at Whole Foods, you know.

609.978 - 618.23 Sean Kelly

Yeah. They're putting the meat through like chlorine, is it? Some crazy process. Yeah. Yeah. Like the color does not look normal anymore on some of these meats. Really?

618.39 - 618.55 Dr. Jonathann Kuo

Yeah.

618.57 - 620.393 Sean Kelly

Yeah. It's supposed to be dark red for steak.

621.571 - 628.065 Dr. Jonathann Kuo

Well, they tested meat before and they contained microplastics. What? In the meat? Yeah. That's crazy.

Chapter 5: How do environmental toxins affect our health?

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1331.04 - 1342.677 Sean Kelly

And real great diagnostics. You got to adapt. Because I know there's a lot of people trying to become doctors right now. But you got to embrace the stuff rather than be scared of it, right? You can't be scared. Yeah. And you've done pretty well with embracing it. Wow.

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1342.917 - 1345.04 Dr. Jonathann Kuo

Listen, I mean, we're trying our best.

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1345.22 - 1355.016 Sean Kelly

Yeah. Two locations and growing, man. I think you're doing fine. Got some big clients too. Was social media a big strategy for you when you were marketing and all that?

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1355.537 - 1372.715 Dr. Jonathann Kuo

Yeah. Well, listen, I mean, honestly, not for a very long time. I mean, my practice was really built on word of mouth for a very long time. Been practicing for 18 years now. Wow. You know, my first specialty was I trained in anesthesiology and interventional pain management.

1372.876 - 1392.502 Dr. Jonathann Kuo

I built a very, you know, respected and busy pain management office in New York City called Hudson Medical that still exists today. We see hundreds of patients today through that. You know, it was through that experience that I was kind of, you know, I saw the pitfalls and the downsides of the traditional medical system. You're not really fixing any issues.

1392.522 - 1412.096 Dr. Jonathann Kuo

You're just slapping Band-Aids and trying to profit on, you know, people getting sick and kind of doing Band-Aid procedures for them without actually trying to fix the root cause. And that's... What got me into regenerative medicine, I started working with like, you know, exosomes and stem cells quite a long time ago, six, seven years ago.

1412.116 - 1432.188 Dr. Jonathann Kuo

I was one of the first to publish on exosomes and injecting them into the spine for chronic pain. The spine, wow. The spine. I did an IV when I got mine. Yeah. You know, I mean, in chronic pain, you use a lot of steroids. All right. And because that's the only thing that insurance reimburses. I guess what? Like, you know, I've done like 30 plus thousand of these injections.

1432.208 - 1446.087 Dr. Jonathann Kuo

I like know that they could work, but I know that, you know, you're going to come back and it's this vicious cycle. It degrades tissue and you're not really going anywhere with this kind of stuff. Regenerative medicine, whole different angle. Right. You're actually trying to fix the issues. Right. And so.

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