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Dr. Karl Deisseroth

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Huberman Lab
Essentials: Understanding & Healing the Mind | Dr. Karl Deisseroth

Psychiatry focuses on disorders where we can't see something that's physically wrong, where we don't have a measurable, where there's no blood test that makes the diagnosis. There's no brain scan that tells us this is schizophrenia, this is depression for an individual patient. And so psychiatry is much more mysterious. And the only tools we have are words. Neurologists are fantastic physicians.

Huberman Lab
Essentials: Understanding & Healing the Mind | Dr. Karl Deisseroth

Psychiatry focuses on disorders where we can't see something that's physically wrong, where we don't have a measurable, where there's no blood test that makes the diagnosis. There's no brain scan that tells us this is schizophrenia, this is depression for an individual patient. And so psychiatry is much more mysterious. And the only tools we have are words. Neurologists are fantastic physicians.

Huberman Lab
Essentials: Understanding & Healing the Mind | Dr. Karl Deisseroth

Psychiatry focuses on disorders where we can't see something that's physically wrong, where we don't have a measurable, where there's no blood test that makes the diagnosis. There's no brain scan that tells us this is schizophrenia, this is depression for an individual patient. And so psychiatry is much more mysterious. And the only tools we have are words. Neurologists are fantastic physicians.

Huberman Lab
Essentials: Understanding & Healing the Mind | Dr. Karl Deisseroth

They see the stroke on brain scans. They see the seizure and the pre-seizure activity with an EEG. And they can measure and treat based on those measurables. In psychiatry, we have a harder job. We use words. We have rating scales for symptoms. We can measure depression and autism with rating scales, but those are words still. And ultimately, that's what psychiatry is built around.

Huberman Lab
Essentials: Understanding & Healing the Mind | Dr. Karl Deisseroth

They see the stroke on brain scans. They see the seizure and the pre-seizure activity with an EEG. And they can measure and treat based on those measurables. In psychiatry, we have a harder job. We use words. We have rating scales for symptoms. We can measure depression and autism with rating scales, but those are words still. And ultimately, that's what psychiatry is built around.

Huberman Lab
Essentials: Understanding & Healing the Mind | Dr. Karl Deisseroth

They see the stroke on brain scans. They see the seizure and the pre-seizure activity with an EEG. And they can measure and treat based on those measurables. In psychiatry, we have a harder job. We use words. We have rating scales for symptoms. We can measure depression and autism with rating scales, but those are words still. And ultimately, that's what psychiatry is built around.

Huberman Lab
Essentials: Understanding & Healing the Mind | Dr. Karl Deisseroth

It's an odd situation because we've got the most complex, beautiful, mysterious, incredibly engineered object in the universe, and yet all we have are words to find our way in.

Huberman Lab
Essentials: Understanding & Healing the Mind | Dr. Karl Deisseroth

It's an odd situation because we've got the most complex, beautiful, mysterious, incredibly engineered object in the universe, and yet all we have are words to find our way in.

Huberman Lab
Essentials: Understanding & Healing the Mind | Dr. Karl Deisseroth

It's an odd situation because we've got the most complex, beautiful, mysterious, incredibly engineered object in the universe, and yet all we have are words to find our way in.

Huberman Lab
Essentials: Understanding & Healing the Mind | Dr. Karl Deisseroth

Well, because we only have words, you've put your finger on a key point. If they don't speak that much in principle, it's harder. The lack of speech can be a symptom. We can see that in depression. We can see that in the negative symptoms of schizophrenia. We can see that in autism. Sometimes by itself, that is a symptom of reduced speech. But ultimately, you do need something.

Huberman Lab
Essentials: Understanding & Healing the Mind | Dr. Karl Deisseroth

Well, because we only have words, you've put your finger on a key point. If they don't speak that much in principle, it's harder. The lack of speech can be a symptom. We can see that in depression. We can see that in the negative symptoms of schizophrenia. We can see that in autism. Sometimes by itself, that is a symptom of reduced speech. But ultimately, you do need something.

Huberman Lab
Essentials: Understanding & Healing the Mind | Dr. Karl Deisseroth

Well, because we only have words, you've put your finger on a key point. If they don't speak that much in principle, it's harder. The lack of speech can be a symptom. We can see that in depression. We can see that in the negative symptoms of schizophrenia. We can see that in autism. Sometimes by itself, that is a symptom of reduced speech. But ultimately, you do need something.

Huberman Lab
Essentials: Understanding & Healing the Mind | Dr. Karl Deisseroth

You need some words to help guide you. And that, in fact, there's challenges that I can tell you about where patients with depression who are so depressed they can't speak, That makes it a bit of a challenge to distinguish depression from some of the other reasons they might not be speaking. And this is sort of the art and the science of psychiatry.

Huberman Lab
Essentials: Understanding & Healing the Mind | Dr. Karl Deisseroth

You need some words to help guide you. And that, in fact, there's challenges that I can tell you about where patients with depression who are so depressed they can't speak, That makes it a bit of a challenge to distinguish depression from some of the other reasons they might not be speaking. And this is sort of the art and the science of psychiatry.

Huberman Lab
Essentials: Understanding & Healing the Mind | Dr. Karl Deisseroth

You need some words to help guide you. And that, in fact, there's challenges that I can tell you about where patients with depression who are so depressed they can't speak, That makes it a bit of a challenge to distinguish depression from some of the other reasons they might not be speaking. And this is sort of the art and the science of psychiatry.

Huberman Lab
Essentials: Understanding & Healing the Mind | Dr. Karl Deisseroth

I think ultimately there will be quantitative tests. Already efforts are being made to look at certain rhythms in the brain using external EEGs to look at brain waves effectively. But ultimately what's going on in the brain in psychiatric disease is physical and it's due to the circuits and the connections and the projections in the brain that are not working as they would in a typical situation.

Huberman Lab
Essentials: Understanding & Healing the Mind | Dr. Karl Deisseroth

I think ultimately there will be quantitative tests. Already efforts are being made to look at certain rhythms in the brain using external EEGs to look at brain waves effectively. But ultimately what's going on in the brain in psychiatric disease is physical and it's due to the circuits and the connections and the projections in the brain that are not working as they would in a typical situation.

Huberman Lab
Essentials: Understanding & Healing the Mind | Dr. Karl Deisseroth

I think ultimately there will be quantitative tests. Already efforts are being made to look at certain rhythms in the brain using external EEGs to look at brain waves effectively. But ultimately what's going on in the brain in psychiatric disease is physical and it's due to the circuits and the connections and the projections in the brain that are not working as they would in a typical situation.

Huberman Lab
Essentials: Understanding & Healing the Mind | Dr. Karl Deisseroth

And I do think we'll have those measurables at some point. Could it be abused or misused? Certainly, but that's, I think, true for all of medicine.

Huberman Lab
Essentials: Understanding & Healing the Mind | Dr. Karl Deisseroth

And I do think we'll have those measurables at some point. Could it be abused or misused? Certainly, but that's, I think, true for all of medicine.

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