Dr. Karl Deisseroth

And I do think we'll have those measurables at some point. Could it be abused or misused? Certainly, but that's, I think, true for all of medicine.

I think we're making progress on what the biggest challenge is, which I think there's still such a strong stigma for psychiatric disease that patients often don't come to us and they feel that they should be able to handle this on their own. And that can slow treatment. It can lead to worsening symptoms.

I think we're making progress on what the biggest challenge is, which I think there's still such a strong stigma for psychiatric disease that patients often don't come to us and they feel that they should be able to handle this on their own. And that can slow treatment. It can lead to worsening symptoms.

I think we're making progress on what the biggest challenge is, which I think there's still such a strong stigma for psychiatric disease that patients often don't come to us and they feel that they should be able to handle this on their own. And that can slow treatment. It can lead to worsening symptoms.

We know, for example, patients who have untreated anxiety issues, if you go for a year or more with a serious untreated anxiety issue, that can convert to depression. You can add another problem on top of the anxiety. And so it would be, you know, why do people not come for treatment?

We know, for example, patients who have untreated anxiety issues, if you go for a year or more with a serious untreated anxiety issue, that can convert to depression. You can add another problem on top of the anxiety. And so it would be, you know, why do people not come for treatment?

We know, for example, patients who have untreated anxiety issues, if you go for a year or more with a serious untreated anxiety issue, that can convert to depression. You can add another problem on top of the anxiety. And so it would be, you know, why do people not come for treatment?

They feel like this is something they should be able to master on their own, which can be true, but usually some help is a good thing.

They feel like this is something they should be able to master on their own, which can be true, but usually some help is a good thing.

They feel like this is something they should be able to master on their own, which can be true, but usually some help is a good thing.

This is really interesting. People, here we have, there's a tension between the words that we've built up in the clinic that mean something to the physicians. And then there's the colloquial use of words that may not be the same. And so that's the first level we have to sort out when someone says, you know, I'm depressed. What exactly do they mean by that?

This is really interesting. People, here we have, there's a tension between the words that we've built up in the clinic that mean something to the physicians. And then there's the colloquial use of words that may not be the same. And so that's the first level we have to sort out when someone says, you know, I'm depressed. What exactly do they mean by that?

This is really interesting. People, here we have, there's a tension between the words that we've built up in the clinic that mean something to the physicians. And then there's the colloquial use of words that may not be the same. And so that's the first level we have to sort out when someone says, you know, I'm depressed. What exactly do they mean by that?

That may be different from what we're talking about in terms of depression. So part of psychiatry is to get beyond that word and to get into how they're actually feeling, get, get rid of the jargon and get to real world examples of, of how they're feeling. So, you know, how do you, what, how much do you look forward into the future? How much hope do you have?

That may be different from what we're talking about in terms of depression. So part of psychiatry is to get beyond that word and to get into how they're actually feeling, get, get rid of the jargon and get to real world examples of, of how they're feeling. So, you know, how do you, what, how much do you look forward into the future? How much hope do you have?

That may be different from what we're talking about in terms of depression. So part of psychiatry is to get beyond that word and to get into how they're actually feeling, get, get rid of the jargon and get to real world examples of, of how they're feeling. So, you know, how do you, what, how much do you look forward into the future? How much hope do you have?

How much planning are you doing for the future? So these here, now you're getting into actual things you can talk about that are unambiguous. If someone says, yeah, I can't even, I can't even think about tomorrow. I don't see how I'm gonna get to tomorrow. That's a nice, precise thing that, you know, it's sad, it's tragic, but it's also, that means something. And we know what that means.

How much planning are you doing for the future? So these here, now you're getting into actual things you can talk about that are unambiguous. If someone says, yeah, I can't even, I can't even think about tomorrow. I don't see how I'm gonna get to tomorrow. That's a nice, precise thing that, you know, it's sad, it's tragic, but it's also, that means something. And we know what that means.

How much planning are you doing for the future? So these here, now you're getting into actual things you can talk about that are unambiguous. If someone says, yeah, I can't even, I can't even think about tomorrow. I don't see how I'm gonna get to tomorrow. That's a nice, precise thing that, you know, it's sad, it's tragic, but it's also, that means something. And we know what that means.

That's the hopelessness symptom of depression. And that is what I try to do when I do a psychiatric interview. I try to get past the jargon and get to what's actually happening in the patient's life and in their mind. But as you say, ultimately, you know, this shows up across, I address this issue every day in my life, whether it's in the lab where we're looking at animals.