Dr. Kate Lister
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Yeah, when DNA first came out in the 90s, there were tests done. You know, the thing about DNA is sometimes it just gives you a general idea of where the DNA came from. So people who did not want to believe our founding father had all these children with his enslaved woman said it could be his brother.
Yeah, when DNA first came out in the 90s, there were tests done. You know, the thing about DNA is sometimes it just gives you a general idea of where the DNA came from. So people who did not want to believe our founding father had all these children with his enslaved woman said it could be his brother.
According to the DNA, it could have been the brother, except Thomas Jefferson kept a list every day of everything that went on in his household, on his plantation, who visited, how long they stayed. His brother lived some distance away, and over a period of a couple decades, he visited a handful of times, not one of which would have been around the timeframe when Sally Hemings got pregnant.
According to the DNA, it could have been the brother, except Thomas Jefferson kept a list every day of everything that went on in his household, on his plantation, who visited, how long they stayed. His brother lived some distance away, and over a period of a couple decades, he visited a handful of times, not one of which would have been around the timeframe when Sally Hemings got pregnant.
According to the DNA, it could have been the brother, except Thomas Jefferson kept a list every day of everything that went on in his household, on his plantation, who visited, how long they stayed. His brother lived some distance away, and over a period of a couple decades, he visited a handful of times, not one of which would have been around the timeframe when Sally Hemings got pregnant.
So I think it's really safe to say that Thomas Jefferson was the father of her children.
So I think it's really safe to say that Thomas Jefferson was the father of her children.
So I think it's really safe to say that Thomas Jefferson was the father of her children.
Not even on the honeymoon. Kate, they went to Mexico for their honeymoon and they were at a very lovely soiree at some wealthy person's house. And he disappeared into a guest room with a blonde while Jackie's standing there feeling like a complete idiot. Wow.
Not even on the honeymoon. Kate, they went to Mexico for their honeymoon and they were at a very lovely soiree at some wealthy person's house. And he disappeared into a guest room with a blonde while Jackie's standing there feeling like a complete idiot. Wow.
Not even on the honeymoon. Kate, they went to Mexico for their honeymoon and they were at a very lovely soiree at some wealthy person's house. And he disappeared into a guest room with a blonde while Jackie's standing there feeling like a complete idiot. Wow.
Well, you know, in the White House, just as in Buckingham Palace, the male leader and the spouse each had separate bedroom suites. So there's the president's side of the residence and then the first lady's. So when Jackie was away, which was frequently, she just needed to get away from him, JFK would bring women up. Do you think he took them to his own bed?
Well, you know, in the White House, just as in Buckingham Palace, the male leader and the spouse each had separate bedroom suites. So there's the president's side of the residence and then the first lady's. So when Jackie was away, which was frequently, she just needed to get away from him, JFK would bring women up. Do you think he took them to his own bed?
Well, you know, in the White House, just as in Buckingham Palace, the male leader and the spouse each had separate bedroom suites. So there's the president's side of the residence and then the first lady's. So when Jackie was away, which was frequently, she just needed to get away from him, JFK would bring women up. Do you think he took them to his own bed?
He did not. He always took them to Jackie's bed where they would have sex on her bed. And then the staff, and this is the weirdest part, which I don't get, they wouldn't change the sheets. I don't know if they weren't, he didn't want them to or, Or if he used so many pairs of sheets every day with these women that they just didn't have enough of a supply.
He did not. He always took them to Jackie's bed where they would have sex on her bed. And then the staff, and this is the weirdest part, which I don't get, they wouldn't change the sheets. I don't know if they weren't, he didn't want them to or, Or if he used so many pairs of sheets every day with these women that they just didn't have enough of a supply.
He did not. He always took them to Jackie's bed where they would have sex on her bed. And then the staff, and this is the weirdest part, which I don't get, they wouldn't change the sheets. I don't know if they weren't, he didn't want them to or, Or if he used so many pairs of sheets every day with these women that they just didn't have enough of a supply.