Dr. Kate Lister

And he said, if you come back with me, I'll provide for you and the child, and I'll free all the children when they're 21. She ended up having seven kids, four of them survived infancy. And, you know, when they were 21, there was no freedom. Now, he did not put them in the fields or in the very arduous tasks. He taught them how to be carpenters so they had skills, they could earn money.

Some of them, you know, served in the house. But, you know, at a certain point, they all just left without his permission. They just left. Two of them could pass as white. And they changed their names and disappeared. Wow.

Some of them, you know, served in the house. But, you know, at a certain point, they all just left without his permission. They just left. Two of them could pass as white. And they changed their names and disappeared. Wow.

Some of them, you know, served in the house. But, you know, at a certain point, they all just left without his permission. They just left. Two of them could pass as white. And they changed their names and disappeared. Wow.

She was. There was a legal thing that they did where she was just sort of freed. And that's what happened to her. But, you know, he spent his last few years entertaining lavishly and he did not have the money. And he knew as he was getting older that when he died, hundreds of his enslaved people were going to be put on the auction block and sold off and families split up.

She was. There was a legal thing that they did where she was just sort of freed. And that's what happened to her. But, you know, he spent his last few years entertaining lavishly and he did not have the money. And he knew as he was getting older that when he died, hundreds of his enslaved people were going to be put on the auction block and sold off and families split up.

She was. There was a legal thing that they did where she was just sort of freed. And that's what happened to her. But, you know, he spent his last few years entertaining lavishly and he did not have the money. And he knew as he was getting older that when he died, hundreds of his enslaved people were going to be put on the auction block and sold off and families split up.

And that's exactly what happened to them. Instead of trying to free them, which wasn't always easy at the time legally, he just figured out they'd be sold and then the money would go to his daughters, pay off his debts for entertaining them.

And that's exactly what happened to them. Instead of trying to free them, which wasn't always easy at the time legally, he just figured out they'd be sold and then the money would go to his daughters, pay off his debts for entertaining them.

And that's exactly what happened to them. Instead of trying to free them, which wasn't always easy at the time legally, he just figured out they'd be sold and then the money would go to his daughters, pay off his debts for entertaining them.

Yeah, when DNA first came out in the 90s, there were tests done. You know, the thing about DNA is sometimes it just gives you a general idea of where the DNA came from. So people who did not want to believe our founding father had all these children with his enslaved woman said it could be his brother.

Yeah, when DNA first came out in the 90s, there were tests done. You know, the thing about DNA is sometimes it just gives you a general idea of where the DNA came from. So people who did not want to believe our founding father had all these children with his enslaved woman said it could be his brother.

Yeah, when DNA first came out in the 90s, there were tests done. You know, the thing about DNA is sometimes it just gives you a general idea of where the DNA came from. So people who did not want to believe our founding father had all these children with his enslaved woman said it could be his brother.

According to the DNA, it could have been the brother, except Thomas Jefferson kept a list every day of everything that went on in his household, on his plantation, who visited, how long they stayed. His brother lived some distance away, and over a period of a couple decades, he visited a handful of times, not one of which would have been around the timeframe when Sally Hemings got pregnant.

According to the DNA, it could have been the brother, except Thomas Jefferson kept a list every day of everything that went on in his household, on his plantation, who visited, how long they stayed. His brother lived some distance away, and over a period of a couple decades, he visited a handful of times, not one of which would have been around the timeframe when Sally Hemings got pregnant.

According to the DNA, it could have been the brother, except Thomas Jefferson kept a list every day of everything that went on in his household, on his plantation, who visited, how long they stayed. His brother lived some distance away, and over a period of a couple decades, he visited a handful of times, not one of which would have been around the timeframe when Sally Hemings got pregnant.

So I think it's really safe to say that Thomas Jefferson was the father of her children.

So I think it's really safe to say that Thomas Jefferson was the father of her children.

So I think it's really safe to say that Thomas Jefferson was the father of her children.

The worst one was JFK.