Dr. Keith Humphreys

I think he was one of the great psychiatrists of his generation, just enormous respect for him as a person and as a scientist.

And I miss him every day when I walk by his office.

I think what he did was really fascinating in part because he did... The important thing, he imaged people and he imaged them before and afterwards and he was able to see a lot of these changes.

And why does that matter?

Because, you know, people...

you know, there's certain experiences people might have described very enthusiastically and think they're really different, but they aren't in fact different, but he actually documents that as different.

So, you know, I think that was really groundbreaking and it's sad he's not going to get to continue that work.

The thing to say is that this is an open label trial with no control group, so that's what we have so far.

So now the thing is to do a proper trial, you know, and see, you know.

There is a lot also sort of ceremony around this, you know, it's sort of like, as a colleague might describe it, it's like the final mission for the soldiers.

They go down to New Mexico, they do this, there's a lot of camaraderie, there's a lot of other good stuff packed around it.

And so is that part of the therapeutic experience or is it entirely, you know...

a chemical experience, that's the thing you would find out in a trial, you know, you would have sort of, you know, you do all that other stuff, but you wouldn't have the Ibogaine at the end.

And, you know, absolutely worth studying and, you know, newer hands will have to pick this up, but I really hope people will.

Okay.

I'm probably the worst person to answer this because I love coffee.

And as I like to say, I don't have a problem with coffee.

If I had to choose between coffee and my children, I can make that decision, but I would really miss them.

I knew that was an okay joke to say because my sons laughed when I told it to them.

But, yeah, it's a stimulant.