Dr. Keith Humphreys

And, you know, it's eating-like behavior.

And so that's why I was optimistic.

At least that's where I want to start.

If that works, it would be fantastic.

Because we have, you know, if you have a drinking problem, you're about 70% more likely to also be overweight.

And Americans are already pretty overweight.

Just think of the two-fer benefit of this, you know, for transforming people's lives, you know, lose 30 pounds and stop your drinking problem.

And last one, you mentioned my dear friend Anna Lemke and my colleague, she said, what's great is their patients, I don't really want to stop drinking, but you know,

I just love losing weight because I've been overweight my whole life.

And so I will take the Ozempic here in the addiction clinic, not because I'm that motivated for the addiction part, but boy, when it comes with this other thing I really value, then I'm going to do it.

And then they get the benefit, you know, they're drinking cuts back.

So it's really thrilling.

Another nice thing is these are old drugs, they've been around like 20 years, people don't realize that, and millions and millions of people have taken them, so that makes it less likely that there's some awful side effect that doesn't show up for 10 years to them.

So there's just a lot of potential upside here and I think the next couple of years of science in this area are going to be super exciting.

I don't think very much.

I mean, maybe some, I mean, certainly the lore is, you know, when you're hungry, you know, when do you are likely to relapse?

You know, in fact, AAP would say this, you know, hungry, angry, lonely, tired, you know, and some people feel that way.

Like if they actually also sometimes feel this way about carbs, you know, when they are short of carbs, they want a beer.

So maybe it's something in there, but I don't think that's the fundamental thing that is the driver.

I think it's more the subjective effect of consuming.