Dr. Kelly Starrett

We're battling a little bit and doing something dynamic.

And then we're both gonna have this moment of fugue, right?

And that's what we're trying to do is make it so that when that happens, when that first interval hits, you're much more capable.

Valid.

And let me introduce you to the work of Laird Hamilton and Gabby Reese, who are really the first people who-

for me, put this into the language and context of performance.

That they, for whatever reason, Laird got onto Wim Hof and recognized that if he trained for these, to be able to handle this very dynamic work on a breath hold.

That he could get more work done, get held down longer, pop back up, recover faster.

And so he saw it as a competitive advantage.

And then those two cleverly just were like, boy, we can repurpose this into a lot of aspects of our life.

And in your experience, what you're actually describing is something that's very common these days where I have this very fit human who now goes and does a sport that they don't do often or a sport they used to do, but now they're so fit and it's easy to overdo it.

It's easy not to have that exposure.

And it's easy to suddenly maybe recognize that like, hey, there's some aspect of my training that's not preparing me for this sport.

And ideally, I think one of the things that's happened that's interesting is that people are exercising because it's about health, right?

It's my bone density and it's my VO2 max and right.

Well, you're also athletic and you do an athlete and you do sports.

But we forgot that the reason we used to train was to get better for something.

And I think I really want to recouple that.

What are you training for, for people?

Because ideally you can't, you still need to go do your sport.