Dr. Kelly Victory

If you say to somebody, you're going to lose your job or you can't travel, you won't be able to go to school, you'll lose your military pension and on and on and on.

That is fear of reprisal.

That is coercion.

And that is clearly against it was a gross violation of the Nuremberg Code in addition to medical ethics in general.

Well, I have to interject here that.

As you say, let me interject here, Dr. Elliott.

This is not the first time in history in which physicians were co-opted to perpetrate atrocities on humanity.

And I don't just mean what happened during the Third Reich and Second World War.

I think about MK Ultra.

I think about the Tuskegee experiment.

I mean, the reality is that this entire COVID debacle could not have occurred were it not for the complicity of our colleagues.

If all physicians had stood shoulder to shoulder with me when I was taking, you know, suffering the slings and arrows

very early on and spoken the truth, this would not have happened.

It was precisely because they got physicians on board and willing to continue this, that it happened.

Well, that was probably one.

If you didn't understand it before, that by itself, Drew, should have been the red flag to the average physician.

Prior to COVID, debate, robust debate.

vigorous, respectful, but robust, vigorous debate was a cornerstone of medicine.

It's always been the cornerstone of science.

It's how you get to the answers.