Dr. Kelly Victory

And so I guess here's the question. As an immunologist, you probably have better scientific background in this. As I mentioned, we know they're doing gain-of-function research on this virus, including at places like the USDA lab in Athens, Georgia, and in multiple academic laboratories, including the University of Wisconsin in Madison.

And so I guess here's the question. As an immunologist, you probably have better scientific background in this. As I mentioned, we know they're doing gain-of-function research on this virus, including at places like the USDA lab in Athens, Georgia, and in multiple academic laboratories, including the University of Wisconsin in Madison.

They are manipulating H5N1, bird flu, in the laboratory to try to make it more transmissible. we are seeing some indication of some more virulent strains of it. We've had a few people who have supposedly died with bird flu. And the question is, is that by natural mutation? You know, you and I talked with Dr. Peter McCullough about this.

They are manipulating H5N1, bird flu, in the laboratory to try to make it more transmissible. we are seeing some indication of some more virulent strains of it. We've had a few people who have supposedly died with bird flu. And the question is, is that by natural mutation? You know, you and I talked with Dr. Peter McCullough about this.

Is it natural mutation or is this once again because they manipulated this virus in a laboratory?

Is it natural mutation or is this once again because they manipulated this virus in a laboratory?

Absolutely. I don't think that it's likely that the new variant that's causing more severe disease for bird flu, I think it's unlikely that it occurred by natural mutation. I think it likely was the result of lab manipulation. I didn't agree with much that happened during the Obama administration, but I did agree with the moratorium that was placed in 2014 on gain of function. It's very dangerous.

Absolutely. I don't think that it's likely that the new variant that's causing more severe disease for bird flu, I think it's unlikely that it occurred by natural mutation. I think it likely was the result of lab manipulation. I didn't agree with much that happened during the Obama administration, but I did agree with the moratorium that was placed in 2014 on gain of function. It's very dangerous.

You and I both know lab errors, lab mistakes aren't uncommon. It happens all the time. Lab leaks happen. So even if you wanted to say, hey, what happened in Wuhan with COVID? It wasn't released on purpose. It was just abject incompetence. Even if it was that, it's dangerous. I think it was, as you do, something more nefarious.

You and I both know lab errors, lab mistakes aren't uncommon. It happens all the time. Lab leaks happen. So even if you wanted to say, hey, what happened in Wuhan with COVID? It wasn't released on purpose. It was just abject incompetence. Even if it was that, it's dangerous. I think it was, as you do, something more nefarious.

And why in the world would you want to manipulate H5N1, bird flu, to make it more transmissible human to human? Why would somebody do that? It didn't pose a risk to humans before. Why would somebody do that? Do you have a theory?

And why in the world would you want to manipulate H5N1, bird flu, to make it more transmissible human to human? Why would somebody do that? It didn't pose a risk to humans before. Why would somebody do that? Do you have a theory?

And you just mentioned the most obvious thing, and I don't want to gloss over it, which is once again, just as with COVID, none of the people in the positions of public health are talking at this point about the things that we should be doing to be good stewards of our overall immune health. No one is talking about good nutrition, regular exercise, adequate sleep, stress mitigation. It's all

And you just mentioned the most obvious thing, and I don't want to gloss over it, which is once again, just as with COVID, none of the people in the positions of public health are talking at this point about the things that we should be doing to be good stewards of our overall immune health. No one is talking about good nutrition, regular exercise, adequate sleep, stress mitigation. It's all

you know, wait, you know, and if we're lucky, they'll come out with a new vaccine for bird flu or, you know, they'll kill all the birds and we can somehow eradicate it. You know, you as a pediatrician, what are the things that you are telling your patients?

you know, wait, you know, and if we're lucky, they'll come out with a new vaccine for bird flu or, you know, they'll kill all the birds and we can somehow eradicate it. You know, you as a pediatrician, what are the things that you are telling your patients?

You know, how do you coach your patients clinically on a daily basis so that they have something other than, you know, bathing in Purell and waiting for a vaccine?

You know, how do you coach your patients clinically on a daily basis so that they have something other than, you know, bathing in Purell and waiting for a vaccine?

Right. Well, you are more magnanimous than I. Indoctrination is probably the nicest word. We were lied to. We were lied to, unfortunately, in medical school. And the greatest existential crisis of my life was really coming to that realization that much of what we were taught in our training simply wasn't true. It was fed to us by Big Pharma.

Right. Well, you are more magnanimous than I. Indoctrination is probably the nicest word. We were lied to. We were lied to, unfortunately, in medical school. And the greatest existential crisis of my life was really coming to that realization that much of what we were taught in our training simply wasn't true. It was fed to us by Big Pharma.