Dr. Kelly Victory

The child tested positive for measles, but it is unclear. It's my understanding that the child was admitted with RSV and was actually given the MMR, the measles vaccine immediately. in the hospital when the child came in ill with RSV and pneumonia.

The child tested positive for measles, but it is unclear. It's my understanding that the child was admitted with RSV and was actually given the MMR, the measles vaccine immediately. in the hospital when the child came in ill with RSV and pneumonia.

Talk a little bit, kind of in as much lay terms as you can, what the MMR is and why that might have caused the child to either test positive for measles or to actually contract measles.

Talk a little bit, kind of in as much lay terms as you can, what the MMR is and why that might have caused the child to either test positive for measles or to actually contract measles.

Well, first of all, I think what you're saying is spot on because you're putting it in perspective. Again, I agree. Any death is a tragedy, and my heart goes out to the parents of that child.

Well, first of all, I think what you're saying is spot on because you're putting it in perspective. Again, I agree. Any death is a tragedy, and my heart goes out to the parents of that child.

But we have to put in perspective as physicians, if you put your public health hat on, we have the reality of the disease burden is that every year, in a particularly bad influenza year, which we've had many of them, 1957, 2002, 69, 2003, 2009, 2018, and this is a particularly brisk year this year, we can have as many as 30 to 50,000 deaths from influenza in the United States.

But we have to put in perspective as physicians, if you put your public health hat on, we have the reality of the disease burden is that every year, in a particularly bad influenza year, which we've had many of them, 1957, 2002, 69, 2003, 2009, 2018, and this is a particularly brisk year this year, we can have as many as 30 to 50,000 deaths from influenza in the United States.

okay so you have to i believe put things in perspective so that people people are prone to fear all the time after they've been primed with what happened with covid people as you said have ptsd and it isn't going to take much to push them over the edge So we are obligated as honest physicians to put things in perspective.

okay so you have to i believe put things in perspective so that people people are prone to fear all the time after they've been primed with what happened with covid people as you said have ptsd and it isn't going to take much to push them over the edge So we are obligated as honest physicians to put things in perspective.

It doesn't mean you are minimizing the tragedy of the loss of a child, but you are saying, look, we have got to say, what is really the real risk? I tell people, if you want to be afraid of something, be afraid of drug-resistant tuberculosis. That's something you want to be afraid of, okay? Exactly.

It doesn't mean you are minimizing the tragedy of the loss of a child, but you are saying, look, we have got to say, what is really the real risk? I tell people, if you want to be afraid of something, be afraid of drug-resistant tuberculosis. That's something you want to be afraid of, okay? Exactly.

No, and I think it is again, Dr. Harvey Reich, our colleague who's an epidemiologist from Yale, I asked him the other day, I said, you know, how many on average, how many deaths in the United States do we have per year as a result of complications from diabetes and from smoking and drug abuse? And it's over a million, over a million deaths a year from those things that are entirely preventable.

No, and I think it is again, Dr. Harvey Reich, our colleague who's an epidemiologist from Yale, I asked him the other day, I said, you know, how many on average, how many deaths in the United States do we have per year as a result of complications from diabetes and from smoking and drug abuse? And it's over a million, over a million deaths a year from those things that are entirely preventable.

type two diabetes, smoking, drug abuse. So I'm talking about things, you know, not cancers that you could say other things, but things that are 100% preventable. And so I think it's, we have to put things in perspective. Another thing I want to talk with you about and see what insights you have is when we talk about MMR, which is measles, mumps, rubella, that the combined vaccine.

type two diabetes, smoking, drug abuse. So I'm talking about things, you know, not cancers that you could say other things, but things that are 100% preventable. And so I think it's, we have to put things in perspective. Another thing I want to talk with you about and see what insights you have is when we talk about MMR, which is measles, mumps, rubella, that the combined vaccine.

So the MMR vaccine that we give in the United States is not just for for measles. It's measles, mumps, rubella combined. And as I intimated, I have concerns that our problem with vaccination isn't just the total number, but it's the frequency and the kind of how the intervals in which we give them. Japan, I understand, got rid of, they outlawed the MMR, that combined vaccine in 1993.

So the MMR vaccine that we give in the United States is not just for for measles. It's measles, mumps, rubella combined. And as I intimated, I have concerns that our problem with vaccination isn't just the total number, but it's the frequency and the kind of how the intervals in which we give them. Japan, I understand, got rid of, they outlawed the MMR, that combined vaccine in 1993.

They still make the individual components, measles, mumps, rubella available, but not as the combined shot. Do you know much about that or do you know what impact, what caused them to do that and what has the impact been on their disease process?

They still make the individual components, measles, mumps, rubella available, but not as the combined shot. Do you know much about that or do you know what impact, what caused them to do that and what has the impact been on their disease process?