Dr. Kelly Victory

Precisely. So just to recap, what you said is precisely correct. And this is not your opinion or my opinion. This is the data that appears on the CDC website. The reality is... From 1900 to 1960, the death rate from measles dropped by 98%. It was so low. Three years, and that was three years prior to the availability of the measles vaccine, which as you said, rolled out in 1963.

Precisely. So just to recap, what you said is precisely correct. And this is not your opinion or my opinion. This is the data that appears on the CDC website. The reality is... From 1900 to 1960, the death rate from measles dropped by 98%. It was so low. Three years, and that was three years prior to the availability of the measles vaccine, which as you said, rolled out in 1963.

So it did drop by 98%. Why? Because of better nutrition, better sanitation, clean water, better living conditions, all of the things that happened between 1900 and 1960. Prior, by the way, in the years prior to 1960, we had somewhere in the range of 400 to 500 deaths a year from measles.

So it did drop by 98%. Why? Because of better nutrition, better sanitation, clean water, better living conditions, all of the things that happened between 1900 and 1960. Prior, by the way, in the years prior to 1960, we had somewhere in the range of 400 to 500 deaths a year from measles.

you know, tragic, but not anywhere near the number of deaths we have on an annual basis from say influenza or tuberculosis or in the rest of the world, you know, diarrheal diseases, those sorts of things. So it wasn't exactly a huge problem prior to 1960, but it had already dropped by 98% by the time the vaccine was rolled out.

you know, tragic, but not anywhere near the number of deaths we have on an annual basis from say influenza or tuberculosis or in the rest of the world, you know, diarrheal diseases, those sorts of things. So it wasn't exactly a huge problem prior to 1960, but it had already dropped by 98% by the time the vaccine was rolled out.

uh so now here we are we had not had uh we've got a quote outbreak right now we've had uh four outbreaks so far this year in the united states an outbreak is defined as more than three cases that are associated and we've had a couple of measles deaths um that have been reported uh but you and i both know we don't have an off there's an awful lot we don't know

uh so now here we are we had not had uh we've got a quote outbreak right now we've had uh four outbreaks so far this year in the united states an outbreak is defined as more than three cases that are associated and we've had a couple of measles deaths um that have been reported uh but you and i both know we don't have an off there's an awful lot we don't know

about those measles cases, including the one child who died in Texas. Talk a little bit about that, what you know, I'll fill in any parts that I know about that death and whether or not you think it's significant.

about those measles cases, including the one child who died in Texas. Talk a little bit about that, what you know, I'll fill in any parts that I know about that death and whether or not you think it's significant.

No, I agree. And I agree with you. And by the way, I don't think either of us are, quote, anti-vaccine. I certainly, prior to COVID, was considered to be a vaccine zealot. I had written prolifically on the importance of vaccination programs. I certainly believe very differently now based on the actual data and what we know. When I was growing up in the 60s,

No, I agree. And I agree with you. And by the way, I don't think either of us are, quote, anti-vaccine. I certainly, prior to COVID, was considered to be a vaccine zealot. I had written prolifically on the importance of vaccination programs. I certainly believe very differently now based on the actual data and what we know. When I was growing up in the 60s,

You got between birth and age 18, depending on what state you lived in, you got anywhere between six and eight vaccines in that 18 year period. That number is now up to 78. And that does not include the six recommended COVID shots. So that would bring it to 84. So, you know, I am not an immunologist. You are.

You got between birth and age 18, depending on what state you lived in, you got anywhere between six and eight vaccines in that 18 year period. That number is now up to 78. And that does not include the six recommended COVID shots. So that would bring it to 84. So, you know, I am not an immunologist. You are.

But I can certainly say as a physician that the human immune system was not meant to be flogged continually with immune challenge after immune challenge after immune challenge with these vaccines. And that's what we are doing.

But I can certainly say as a physician that the human immune system was not meant to be flogged continually with immune challenge after immune challenge after immune challenge with these vaccines. And that's what we are doing.

And I believe that it is being reflected in the disease processes that we are seeing, not only autism, but the massive increase in asthma and allergies, you know, eczema, psoriasis, all these autoimmune diseases.

And I believe that it is being reflected in the disease processes that we are seeing, not only autism, but the massive increase in asthma and allergies, you know, eczema, psoriasis, all these autoimmune diseases.

I think are likely related in one way or another to the fact that we are over vaccinating and we have been led to believe that we can vaccinate our way to good health as opposed to all of the other things that you and I have been talking about. What I was referencing with regard to this child who died in Texas is that we don't even know that that child died of measles.

I think are likely related in one way or another to the fact that we are over vaccinating and we have been led to believe that we can vaccinate our way to good health as opposed to all of the other things that you and I have been talking about. What I was referencing with regard to this child who died in Texas is that we don't even know that that child died of measles.