Dr. Kieran O'Keefe

A strange pink dust on Betty's dress.

Explain that one away.

That is very, very difficult.

I don't know where that would come from.

It is really strange, but I think Evelyn makes a really good point.

You know, from a forensic science perspective, this would not stand up in a court of law.

Kieran.

Yeah, I... Wow, I'm racking my brains about this because it is tangible physical evidence that is... Again, it's quite difficult to explain, but... I love that phrase, difficult to explain.

Does that mean that you can't explain it?

No, I think we've got to...

Try and find some way of discounting the possibility that there isn't another human element here.

That, you know, this couple faced kind of tension and anxiety and kind of a response when they were in that diner.

Because of being an interracial couple.

I think we've got to discount the possibility that there are those other human elements.

If we can do that...

then potentially you've got something interesting in terms of UFO and abduction.

Well, they could.

if there was discussion about the events prior to them being hypnotized and going through those sessions.

So yes, we could discount it from a skeptical point of view if that were the case.

But I think the interesting thing here for me is that the claim is that Betty and Barney actually didn't speak about it prior to those sessions.