Dr. Laurie Santos

A lot of people today are not connecting in real time, right? You text, whoop, and then when you get back five seconds later, whoop, LOL. Our brains are just not set up to process that kind of social interaction that's not happening in real time, right?

A lot of people today are not connecting in real time, right? You text, whoop, and then when you get back five seconds later, whoop, LOL. Our brains are just not set up to process that kind of social interaction that's not happening in real time, right?

A lot of people today are not connecting in real time, right? You text, whoop, and then when you get back five seconds later, whoop, LOL. Our brains are just not set up to process that kind of social interaction that's not happening in real time, right?

In real life is the best, but at least in real time is pretty good, like talking to someone over the phone or using video conferencing or whatever. But so much of our tools have moved that away. I think a lot of the disconnects that we see in offices these days is that people connect not by walking by somebody's office and chatting with them, but they send them a Slack message, right?

In real life is the best, but at least in real time is pretty good, like talking to someone over the phone or using video conferencing or whatever. But so much of our tools have moved that away. I think a lot of the disconnects that we see in offices these days is that people connect not by walking by somebody's office and chatting with them, but they send them a Slack message, right?

In real life is the best, but at least in real time is pretty good, like talking to someone over the phone or using video conferencing or whatever. But so much of our tools have moved that away. I think a lot of the disconnects that we see in offices these days is that people connect not by walking by somebody's office and chatting with them, but they send them a Slack message, right?

Or send them an email, right? These forms of communication are work functionally, right, we can get the information across. But I think we're losing out on the psychological benefits of this sort of not in real time communication. And I think that has important consequences for mattering to

Or send them an email, right? These forms of communication are work functionally, right, we can get the information across. But I think we're losing out on the psychological benefits of this sort of not in real time communication. And I think that has important consequences for mattering to

Or send them an email, right? These forms of communication are work functionally, right, we can get the information across. But I think we're losing out on the psychological benefits of this sort of not in real time communication. And I think that has important consequences for mattering to

I think technology, all these technologies are supposed to be connecting us, right? Even a dating app, it's like literal purpose is to connect you with people. Maybe people you wouldn't meet if you're not at your local bar or something like that. But when the technology is not well suited to the way our psychology evolved, things can misfire in all these ways.

I think technology, all these technologies are supposed to be connecting us, right? Even a dating app, it's like literal purpose is to connect you with people. Maybe people you wouldn't meet if you're not at your local bar or something like that. But when the technology is not well suited to the way our psychology evolved, things can misfire in all these ways.

I think technology, all these technologies are supposed to be connecting us, right? Even a dating app, it's like literal purpose is to connect you with people. Maybe people you wouldn't meet if you're not at your local bar or something like that. But when the technology is not well suited to the way our psychology evolved, things can misfire in all these ways.

And far too often, what we're trying to go for is convenience. If you're grabbing something off chat GPT and pasting it into a dating app, it's because you want to like reduce friction. You just want to make stuff easy, right? Real life is frictiony. Like social connection is frictiony. Mattering is frictiony. It takes work. It takes time, right?

And far too often, what we're trying to go for is convenience. If you're grabbing something off chat GPT and pasting it into a dating app, it's because you want to like reduce friction. You just want to make stuff easy, right? Real life is frictiony. Like social connection is frictiony. Mattering is frictiony. It takes work. It takes time, right?

And far too often, what we're trying to go for is convenience. If you're grabbing something off chat GPT and pasting it into a dating app, it's because you want to like reduce friction. You just want to make stuff easy, right? Real life is frictiony. Like social connection is frictiony. Mattering is frictiony. It takes work. It takes time, right?

And so I think as we go towards an all too convenient society, we wind up losing some of the psychological benefits that can come from connection and mattering because we're trying to just bang things out and do it as easily as possible. Well, sometimes you have to put in some work to feel like things matter. I mean, that was like the old school DESE studies that you talked about, right?

And so I think as we go towards an all too convenient society, we wind up losing some of the psychological benefits that can come from connection and mattering because we're trying to just bang things out and do it as easily as possible. Well, sometimes you have to put in some work to feel like things matter. I mean, that was like the old school DESE studies that you talked about, right?

And so I think as we go towards an all too convenient society, we wind up losing some of the psychological benefits that can come from connection and mattering because we're trying to just bang things out and do it as easily as possible. Well, sometimes you have to put in some work to feel like things matter. I mean, that was like the old school DESE studies that you talked about, right?

You putting the time in and maybe not even getting rewarded for it is one of the things that can build up some of the most intrinsic reward.

You putting the time in and maybe not even getting rewarded for it is one of the things that can build up some of the most intrinsic reward.