Dr. Laurie Santos

Yeah, for sure.

Yeah, for sure.

For sure. I mean, I think one of the interesting things about the kids today that I see on the college campuses is they have so many more of these technological distractions, right? In a way that we just like never had. I rewind to like late 90s college life. All you could do in the evening was sit around and shoot the crap with people about what was going on in life.

For sure. I mean, I think one of the interesting things about the kids today that I see on the college campuses is they have so many more of these technological distractions, right? In a way that we just like never had. I rewind to like late 90s college life. All you could do in the evening was sit around and shoot the crap with people about what was going on in life.

For sure. I mean, I think one of the interesting things about the kids today that I see on the college campuses is they have so many more of these technological distractions, right? In a way that we just like never had. I rewind to like late 90s college life. All you could do in the evening was sit around and shoot the crap with people about what was going on in life.

We listened to each other, right? Now you might want to shoot the crap with your roommate, but your phone is digging in your pocket. There's super interesting stuff on TikTok. I think the dopamine hits that we can get not from in real life social connection are so profound that it makes it hard to pay attention to people in real life.

We listened to each other, right? Now you might want to shoot the crap with your roommate, but your phone is digging in your pocket. There's super interesting stuff on TikTok. I think the dopamine hits that we can get not from in real life social connection are so profound that it makes it hard to pay attention to people in real life.

We listened to each other, right? Now you might want to shoot the crap with your roommate, but your phone is digging in your pocket. There's super interesting stuff on TikTok. I think the dopamine hits that we can get not from in real life social connection are so profound that it makes it hard to pay attention to people in real life.

And I think that has a huge consequence for students' ability to listen, but also a huge consequence by virtue of that for their ability to feel connected, to feel like they really matter, right? And it's one thing if you're the listener, but it's a much worse thing if you're the listenee, right?

And I think that has a huge consequence for students' ability to listen, but also a huge consequence by virtue of that for their ability to feel connected, to feel like they really matter, right? And it's one thing if you're the listener, but it's a much worse thing if you're the listenee, right?

And I think that has a huge consequence for students' ability to listen, but also a huge consequence by virtue of that for their ability to feel connected, to feel like they really matter, right? And it's one thing if you're the listener, but it's a much worse thing if you're the listenee, right?

It's one thing if you're the person not making others feel seen, but it's terrible for you if you feel unseen, if you feel like other folks don't listen to you. And I think that this is a real problem that technology in particular has created, right? These little short sound bites and these quick things, right? Most human stories don't fit into that, right?

It's one thing if you're the person not making others feel seen, but it's terrible for you if you feel unseen, if you feel like other folks don't listen to you. And I think that this is a real problem that technology in particular has created, right? These little short sound bites and these quick things, right? Most human stories don't fit into that, right?

It's one thing if you're the person not making others feel seen, but it's terrible for you if you feel unseen, if you feel like other folks don't listen to you. And I think that this is a real problem that technology in particular has created, right? These little short sound bites and these quick things, right? Most human stories don't fit into that, right?

And when we get used to getting everything in a little dopamine-inducing chunky soundbite, it can be hard to go back to those in real life interactions. And I think that's a real consequence for the kind of connection we feel with those around us.

And when we get used to getting everything in a little dopamine-inducing chunky soundbite, it can be hard to go back to those in real life interactions. And I think that's a real consequence for the kind of connection we feel with those around us.

And when we get used to getting everything in a little dopamine-inducing chunky soundbite, it can be hard to go back to those in real life interactions. And I think that's a real consequence for the kind of connection we feel with those around us.

And without the normal and real life stuff. You and I are having this conversation. not in person. I don't know if your listeners know that, but we're not in the same room together. We're connecting through a technology tool. And that's great because we can connect in real time. We can see each other's faces and hear each other's voice and stuff.

And without the normal and real life stuff. You and I are having this conversation. not in person. I don't know if your listeners know that, but we're not in the same room together. We're connecting through a technology tool. And that's great because we can connect in real time. We can see each other's faces and hear each other's voice and stuff.

And without the normal and real life stuff. You and I are having this conversation. not in person. I don't know if your listeners know that, but we're not in the same room together. We're connecting through a technology tool. And that's great because we can connect in real time. We can see each other's faces and hear each other's voice and stuff.