Dr. Laurie Santos

And it's kind of built to make it harder for us to use it well. You know, every app is in some ways competing for your attention, right? They want to notify you of stuff and have the dings that sort of give you a little burst of reward every time you get some new piece of information.

And it's kind of built to make it harder for us to use it well. You know, every app is in some ways competing for your attention, right? They want to notify you of stuff and have the dings that sort of give you a little burst of reward every time you get some new piece of information.

And it's kind of built to make it harder for us to use it well. You know, every app is in some ways competing for your attention, right? They want to notify you of stuff and have the dings that sort of give you a little burst of reward every time you get some new piece of information.

And that means that our apps and our technology is kind of constantly competing with real life, you know, for our attention. Sadly, I think there's domains in which the technology is sort of winning, you Which makes sense.

And that means that our apps and our technology is kind of constantly competing with real life, you know, for our attention. Sadly, I think there's domains in which the technology is sort of winning, you Which makes sense.

And that means that our apps and our technology is kind of constantly competing with real life, you know, for our attention. Sadly, I think there's domains in which the technology is sort of winning, you Which makes sense.

You know, at my podcast, I talked to the University of British Columbia researcher Liz Dunn, and she had this lovely quote where she's like, you know, imagine if to your next, you know, like dinner date with your husband, like you took a big wheelbarrow and in the wheelbarrow it was, you know, DVDs of every movie you've ever seen, you know, a big pile of CDs of every song in the universe, like

You know, at my podcast, I talked to the University of British Columbia researcher Liz Dunn, and she had this lovely quote where she's like, you know, imagine if to your next, you know, like dinner date with your husband, like you took a big wheelbarrow and in the wheelbarrow it was, you know, DVDs of every movie you've ever seen, you know, a big pile of CDs of every song in the universe, like

You know, at my podcast, I talked to the University of British Columbia researcher Liz Dunn, and she had this lovely quote where she's like, you know, imagine if to your next, you know, like dinner date with your husband, like you took a big wheelbarrow and in the wheelbarrow it was, you know, DVDs of every movie you've ever seen, you know, a big pile of CDs of every song in the universe, like

Printouts of every family reunion ever, like, you know, printouts of all your emails, like, you know, big piles of porn. Right. Like, you know, if there was a wheelbarrow with all that stuff next to you, you'd be distracted. You'd want to be going through it the whole dinner. I'd be like, oh, let me go back to my family reunion. Yeah. But like what she says is like your brain isn't stupid.

Printouts of every family reunion ever, like, you know, printouts of all your emails, like, you know, big piles of porn. Right. Like, you know, if there was a wheelbarrow with all that stuff next to you, you'd be distracted. You'd want to be going through it the whole dinner. I'd be like, oh, let me go back to my family reunion. Yeah. But like what she says is like your brain isn't stupid.

Printouts of every family reunion ever, like, you know, printouts of all your emails, like, you know, big piles of porn. Right. Like, you know, if there was a wheelbarrow with all that stuff next to you, you'd be distracted. You'd want to be going through it the whole dinner. I'd be like, oh, let me go back to my family reunion. Yeah. But like what she says is like your brain isn't stupid.

Like your brain knows that on the other side of your iPhone is all that stuff. Yeah. So there's something constantly in your brain that has to be like, no, no, no, no. Pay attention to this conversation because. Don't check your email. Don't check your email. And that kind of is constantly a little bit depleting. It's definitely distracting, but it's a little bit depleting as well.

Like your brain knows that on the other side of your iPhone is all that stuff. Yeah. So there's something constantly in your brain that has to be like, no, no, no, no. Pay attention to this conversation because. Don't check your email. Don't check your email. And that kind of is constantly a little bit depleting. It's definitely distracting, but it's a little bit depleting as well.

Like your brain knows that on the other side of your iPhone is all that stuff. Yeah. So there's something constantly in your brain that has to be like, no, no, no, no. Pay attention to this conversation because. Don't check your email. Don't check your email. And that kind of is constantly a little bit depleting. It's definitely distracting, but it's a little bit depleting as well.

I mean, when you think about what's on the other, you know, like weather, you know, like printouts of weather predictions. Oh, yeah. Every TikTok video in the history of the Internet. Right. I mean, it's a huge, huge slot machine. And sadly, you know, I mean, I love my husband. We have some great conversations.

I mean, when you think about what's on the other, you know, like weather, you know, like printouts of weather predictions. Oh, yeah. Every TikTok video in the history of the Internet. Right. I mean, it's a huge, huge slot machine. And sadly, you know, I mean, I love my husband. We have some great conversations.

I mean, when you think about what's on the other, you know, like weather, you know, like printouts of weather predictions. Oh, yeah. Every TikTok video in the history of the Internet. Right. I mean, it's a huge, huge slot machine. And sadly, you know, I mean, I love my husband. We have some great conversations.

But is every conversation with my husband more interesting than literally everything on the Internet? Right. You know, not necessarily. And what that means is we're so tempted by that stuff over in real life social connection, even though we know that the in real life stuff is going to make us so much happier.

But is every conversation with my husband more interesting than literally everything on the Internet? Right. You know, not necessarily. And what that means is we're so tempted by that stuff over in real life social connection, even though we know that the in real life stuff is going to make us so much happier.