Dr. Layne Norton

Like there's just not any, like I don't know what else we can give you, you know?

And so again, with the seed oil thing, if you were looking at just, yes, it adds calories, but is it independently increasing inflammation?

Like if we're talking about actual polyunsaturated fats, like not trans fats, I mean, if you're overeating it, sure.

But if you're replacing saturated fat with that, the evidence suggests it's neutral or positive.

And so they're talking about a mechanism.

Well, those double bonds can oxidize and there can be X, Y, Z.

Okay, but what happens when you just feed it to people?

And then you're sick.

Now, some people have said, and we talked about this, like heating and reheating.

It's probably not even like one-time heating.

It's probably like multiple times heating.

Depends on the smoke point, all that kind of stuff.

But again, that's confounded by the fact that, okay, if you're heating and reheating, you're frying stuff.

And fried food is a proxy for really poor diet quality.

So again, is it the seed oils that they're frying it in or is it the fact that these people just eat really poorly overall in these cohort studies who are eating a lot of fried foods?

So it's kind of like if we look at the priority of what's important, that's some of the last stuff I'm worried about just because I'm like, again, most people are eating over 3,500 calories a day, doing less than 20 minutes of physical activity.

Okay.

Let's get that under control first.

And if you happen to be eating some seed oils while you're getting your calories to down to, I don't know, 2,500 a day.

Not really that worried about it, right?