Dr. Lisa Feldman Barrett
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This was after. It was... maybe a year after she was diagnosed. Much later, I read, I was reading a book by Naomi Oreskes, the historian of science. And she wrote a book called, Why Trust Science? And it's a wonderful book. But in the book, she talks about, she gives examples of places, a phenomena where the public didn't trust science and they should have. And this is one of them.
This was after. It was... maybe a year after she was diagnosed. Much later, I read, I was reading a book by Naomi Oreskes, the historian of science. And she wrote a book called, Why Trust Science? And it's a wonderful book. But in the book, she talks about, she gives examples of places, a phenomena where the public didn't trust science and they should have. And this is one of them.
Apparently it's been known for a really long time. And I just want to point out that estrogen, progesterone, testosterone, evolved as metabolic regulators. I'm highlighting it because in a culture that separates mental from physical, we don't think about the role of metabolism in vision or even in mood. That's a really recent thing.
Apparently it's been known for a really long time. And I just want to point out that estrogen, progesterone, testosterone, evolved as metabolic regulators. I'm highlighting it because in a culture that separates mental from physical, we don't think about the role of metabolism in vision or even in mood. That's a really recent thing.
In our lab, one of the things we study now is the role of metabolism in in really basic, really, really basic psychological phenomena, like just as a fundamental building block of your mind, basically.
In our lab, one of the things we study now is the role of metabolism in in really basic, really, really basic psychological phenomena, like just as a fundamental building block of your mind, basically.
Yeah, so I should say this was, you know, this was some years ago, right? So... Currently, there is a kind of a revolution going on where there's actually something called metabolic psychiatry now. Back when I was reading about this, it sounded crazy. When I saw what my daughter was experiencing, that she was suffering, like really suffering.
Yeah, so I should say this was, you know, this was some years ago, right? So... Currently, there is a kind of a revolution going on where there's actually something called metabolic psychiatry now. Back when I was reading about this, it sounded crazy. When I saw what my daughter was experiencing, that she was suffering, like really suffering.
It's really hard for me to talk about this because as I'm talking to you about this, I'm thinking, I just, I wish that I, you know, I wish that I had figured this out earlier, but anyways, What we did was I found every possible route that I could think of to target her body budget, so basically target her metabolism.
It's really hard for me to talk about this because as I'm talking to you about this, I'm thinking, I just, I wish that I, you know, I wish that I had figured this out earlier, but anyways, What we did was I found every possible route that I could think of to target her body budget, so basically target her metabolism.
And then we basically came up with a daily routine, which she participated in making to see if we could put her on a different trajectory, you know? And that involved everything from getting off social media. Because? Because, first of all, she was using, like a lot of kids do, she was using her screens late at night and... at that point, and again, this was something I just happened upon, right?
And then we basically came up with a daily routine, which she participated in making to see if we could put her on a different trajectory, you know? And that involved everything from getting off social media. Because? Because, first of all, she was using, like a lot of kids do, she was using her screens late at night and... at that point, and again, this was something I just happened upon, right?
But actually at a NCI, at a National Cancer Institute meeting, you know, we have retinal ganglion cells. We have cells in our retina that regulate circadian rhythm, and they're sensitive to light at the wavelengths that comes from your screen, from a screen. So if you look at those screens at night, Your brain thinks it's daytime, like your circadian rhythm.
But actually at a NCI, at a National Cancer Institute meeting, you know, we have retinal ganglion cells. We have cells in our retina that regulate circadian rhythm, and they're sensitive to light at the wavelengths that comes from your screen, from a screen. So if you look at those screens at night, Your brain thinks it's daytime, like your circadian rhythm.
You give yourself a circadian rhythm disorder, basically. And it will be harder to get into a regular sleep cycle. And you need that regular sleep cycle in order for toxins to clear and in order to consolidate what you've learned during the day so that you can remember it later. And there are a whole bunch of restorative things happen during deep sleep that you really need.
You give yourself a circadian rhythm disorder, basically. And it will be harder to get into a regular sleep cycle. And you need that regular sleep cycle in order for toxins to clear and in order to consolidate what you've learned during the day so that you can remember it later. And there are a whole bunch of restorative things happen during deep sleep that you really need.
And if you can't get enough deep sleep, that will make your budgeting problems worse, basically. So we targeted her. We got her off social media. Well, first of all, off screens after, you know, like seven o'clock, eight o'clock at night, no screens. off social media to reduce social uncertainty, social stress.
And if you can't get enough deep sleep, that will make your budgeting problems worse, basically. So we targeted her. We got her off social media. Well, first of all, off screens after, you know, like seven o'clock, eight o'clock at night, no screens. off social media to reduce social uncertainty, social stress.
I got up with her at 5.30 every morning, made her breakfast, sat with her while she ate breakfast. So made sure that she was eating nutritious food, not pseudo food, like, you know, pop tarts and shit like that. We had to start her like exercising again. So she started to walk long distances.
I got up with her at 5.30 every morning, made her breakfast, sat with her while she ate breakfast. So made sure that she was eating nutritious food, not pseudo food, like, you know, pop tarts and shit like that. We had to start her like exercising again. So she started to walk long distances.