Dr. Luc (Luke) van Loon

And he said, like, what do you mean?

I said, he's in my office next door.

He's on a sabbatical here.

And so actually during the podcast, I actually got Keith out and we sat together.

And then he thought that we had completely opposites

perspectives and we don't I mean I'm a human physiologist and he's also a physiologist but he looks at a lot of also ligaments engineered ligaments and looks at what happens there but then the translation is to what extent can you actually

Translate this to supplement use or stimulation in vivo.

We're still far from that.

But yes, the individual amino acids are important.

Whether there's bioactive peptides, I don't really see any evidence yet.

So, yeah.

And I was thinking... I'm certainly not an expert on that topic, but I've seen a lot of those papers and a few meta-analysis, and there seems to be going on something on pain perception.

But of course, pain perception is also something very subjective.

So is it working through the guts?

Is it working through maybe gut-brain axis?

Or is it really something between gut and muscle or gut and musculoskeletal tissues?

I don't know.

But yeah, I mean, my outcome parameters are generally not paying attention.

Yeah, I mean, we're giving like 20 or 30 grams of protein, and if half of it is glycine and protein, those are huge amounts.

So quantitatively, most of the protein will be completely digested and absorbed as amino acids over the intestinal wall, then released in the portal vein, then actually released via the liver into the circulation.