Dr. Marcel Dirsus

I think both countries were initially occupied, right? So they couldn't really decide much because in the case of Germany, the other allies were in charge. Even in that case, right? So even once you've beaten these adversaries, it's really difficult to actually go through then creating a democracy. So let me give you one example and one difficulty that is universal to all of this.

I think both countries were initially occupied, right? So they couldn't really decide much because in the case of Germany, the other allies were in charge. Even in that case, right? So even once you've beaten these adversaries, it's really difficult to actually go through then creating a democracy. So let me give you one example and one difficulty that is universal to all of this.

So let's say you go in militarily for whatever reason and you get rid of that old regime. Now you have to make a decision what you're going to do with the remnants of that regime, right? Are you going to purge them? Are you going to get rid of them, or are you going to say, maybe, okay, we'll purge people at the top, but everybody else we're going to keep?

So let's say you go in militarily for whatever reason and you get rid of that old regime. Now you have to make a decision what you're going to do with the remnants of that regime, right? Are you going to purge them? Are you going to get rid of them, or are you going to say, maybe, okay, we'll purge people at the top, but everybody else we're going to keep?

So let's say you go in militarily for whatever reason and you get rid of that old regime. Now you have to make a decision what you're going to do with the remnants of that regime, right? Are you going to purge them? Are you going to get rid of them, or are you going to say, maybe, okay, we'll purge people at the top, but everybody else we're going to keep?

It's a little bit separate, right? Okay. So let's take Iraq, right? So the Americans, when they went into Iraq, they had the same decision to make, right? They could either prioritize the functioning of Iraqi society. And if they were going to do that, they would purge very few people. Because again, if you purge tens of thousands, maybe even hundreds of thousands of people,

It's a little bit separate, right? Okay. So let's take Iraq, right? So the Americans, when they went into Iraq, they had the same decision to make, right? They could either prioritize the functioning of Iraqi society. And if they were going to do that, they would purge very few people. Because again, if you purge tens of thousands, maybe even hundreds of thousands of people,

It's a little bit separate, right? Okay. So let's take Iraq, right? So the Americans, when they went into Iraq, they had the same decision to make, right? They could either prioritize the functioning of Iraqi society. And if they were going to do that, they would purge very few people. Because again, if you purge tens of thousands, maybe even hundreds of thousands of people,

society is going to cease functioning effectively, or you're going to do the opposite. And again, there's a trade-off here, right? And this is also what they saw in Germany. So in Germany, they decided to let a lot of Nazis just keep working. So Germany still had judges, policemen, teachers that were Nazis.

society is going to cease functioning effectively, or you're going to do the opposite. And again, there's a trade-off here, right? And this is also what they saw in Germany. So in Germany, they decided to let a lot of Nazis just keep working. So Germany still had judges, policemen, teachers that were Nazis.

society is going to cease functioning effectively, or you're going to do the opposite. And again, there's a trade-off here, right? And this is also what they saw in Germany. So in Germany, they decided to let a lot of Nazis just keep working. So Germany still had judges, policemen, teachers that were Nazis.

And the Allies did that because they cared more about a functioning Germany than they cared about getting rid of all the Nazis. And in Iraq, they almost went the opposite approach where they purged a lot of people But that ultimately led to a situation where the country was just not able to function. Some guy who worked at an electricity station was previously affiliated with the regime.

And the Allies did that because they cared more about a functioning Germany than they cared about getting rid of all the Nazis. And in Iraq, they almost went the opposite approach where they purged a lot of people But that ultimately led to a situation where the country was just not able to function. Some guy who worked at an electricity station was previously affiliated with the regime.

And the Allies did that because they cared more about a functioning Germany than they cared about getting rid of all the Nazis. And in Iraq, they almost went the opposite approach where they purged a lot of people But that ultimately led to a situation where the country was just not able to function. Some guy who worked at an electricity station was previously affiliated with the regime.

So now he was jobless. The military was disbanded. So all of a sudden you have hundreds of thousands of people with military training who no longer have a job. And these decisions are incredibly difficult. And once again, there's not really a good choice here. And you're always going to be forced into this.

So now he was jobless. The military was disbanded. So all of a sudden you have hundreds of thousands of people with military training who no longer have a job. And these decisions are incredibly difficult. And once again, there's not really a good choice here. And you're always going to be forced into this.

So now he was jobless. The military was disbanded. So all of a sudden you have hundreds of thousands of people with military training who no longer have a job. And these decisions are incredibly difficult. And once again, there's not really a good choice here. And you're always going to be forced into this.

Yeah, I think over the last couple of decades, we've had a big push for international justice and holding these types of leaders accountable. And that's a great thing because it can be deterrent. So if you haven't yet committed the worst of the worst, if you haven't yet committed these types of atrocities,

Yeah, I think over the last couple of decades, we've had a big push for international justice and holding these types of leaders accountable. And that's a great thing because it can be deterrent. So if you haven't yet committed the worst of the worst, if you haven't yet committed these types of atrocities,

Yeah, I think over the last couple of decades, we've had a big push for international justice and holding these types of leaders accountable. And that's a great thing because it can be deterrent. So if you haven't yet committed the worst of the worst, if you haven't yet committed these types of atrocities,