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Jessie, so good to see you again and have you on the podcast.

I can't believe the journey you've been on for the last, I guess, four years since we first talked.

I think I was in Maui.

It was COVID.

You just come out with your new book.

And my friend's like, hey, would you talk to my friend Jesse?

I'm like, sure.

It's a good topic.

The glucose goddess.