Dr. Mark Hyman

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So welcome back to the podcast.

It seems great to have you back in person here in Austin, Texas in my new studio.

Yeah, it's so nice to see you again, Mark.

We did.

So as you heard from the introduction, it seems an esteemed cardiologist from the UK.

who's been a vocal critic of a lot of the mainstream ways of thinking about cardiovascular risk, cardiovascular health, and the use of statins as our primary therapy for reducing cardiovascular disease, which is, after all, the number one killer in the world.

We're going to dive deep into that.

the issues around these drugs, around what we need to actually be looking at for cardiovascular disease.

And I think your opinion is going to be a little bit jarring for people because it goes against the conventional wisdom, which isn't necessarily always wise.

And I think it's a much more nuanced conversation that people need to be having around cardiovascular disease than high LDL cholesterol, bad cholesterol, take a statin, end of story.

Essentially what we all do in medicine, if we're trained in traditional medicine, high cholesterol equals statin.

And if statin causes side effects, you can play with a bunch of other drugs like PCSK9 inhibitors.

But we're going to start out at the end, which is this lawsuit that was filed by two of your colleagues that you were going to be a part of but decided not to be for various reasons because you couldn't actually talk about the issues that you care about, which I guess has a lot of integrity.

But the case was brought by Zoe Harcombe and Dr. Malcolm Kendrick against...

Associated Newspapers, which is the publisher of the Mail on Sunday.

And there were a series of articles published in March of 2019 that were part of a campaign called Fight Fake Health News.

This was even before COVID and the whole misinformation.