Dr. Mark Hyman

Everything has a role.

But how it's used, how frequently it's used, who it's prescribed, how often it's prescribed, the manipulation of the medical system, the manipulation of the scientific research and the lack of transparency about the data, the lack of publication of all the data, gives us a warped view of how great these drugs are.

And they're the number one

class of drugs sold in the world globally.

Absolutely.

Or have it over the counter.

I mean, there was in 2021 globally, it was $15 billion spent on statins.

It's projected to reach $22 billion by 2032.

I mean, this is a staggering amount of money on one drug.

Absolutely.

And it's so, there's a lot at stake here.

Well, that's really, I just want to double-click on that too, because when we hear evidence-based medicine, what it usually is interpreted as is only what the science says, not what the patient says.

is experiencing or what the clinician expert understands from their decades of experience, which are part of the evidence-based trial.

100%.

And that's really the failure here.

And evidence-based medicine is held up as this wholly...

kind of idle in a sense that we bow to, but often we kind of think misinterpret what it means.

And I think your explanation of it is really important because it's not just what the data show and it's also which data and who funded the data and what wasn't studied.

And the absence of evidence isn't the evidence of absence.

So there's a whole bunch of stuff that's going on.