Dr. Martin Abbass

Yeah, I mean, I think there's an element here.

It starts with the stigma.

It always goes back to that stigma issue.

Because obviously, if you're a scientist, you may not engage with something that you believe to be completely, you know, phooey, as it were.

So I think you talked about sort of going on to CNN or Sky News or whatever it might be.

It depends if that is going to happen more often.

We know that the Senate hearings are happening.

They are serious individuals.

People are taking notice.

Hopefully that's destigmatizing things going on in America.

We don't really have something like that here in the UK.

I think there has been on talk radio some UFO discussions, certainly when there were the balls flying around sort of, I think it was New Jersey and all of that, there was some discussion.

Yeah, I think that was with Alex Phillips.

And she handled that really, really well.

I thought she was an excellent sort of host there.

She took it seriously.

And it just needs a little bit more of that at a cultural level.

And I see the change already.

I mean, 10 years ago, I got the foil hat.

Now I'm getting a sort of a discussion, people even coming up to me and asking, oh, what do you think of this, Martin?