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Dr. Mary Claire Haver

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unPAUSED with Dr. Mary Claire Haver
Estrogen, Progesterone, and Testosterone: The Science of Hormones, Sexual Function, and Menopausee

That is a very good way of putting it.

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unPAUSED with Dr. Mary Claire Haver
Estrogen, Progesterone, and Testosterone: The Science of Hormones, Sexual Function, and Menopausee

So when we study cognition, there's the shopping list memory test.

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unPAUSED with Dr. Mary Claire Haver
Estrogen, Progesterone, and Testosterone: The Science of Hormones, Sexual Function, and Menopausee

There's the how did you perform on this verbal recall test.

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unPAUSED with Dr. Mary Claire Haver
Estrogen, Progesterone, and Testosterone: The Science of Hormones, Sexual Function, and Menopausee

There's lots of different tests.

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unPAUSED with Dr. Mary Claire Haver
Estrogen, Progesterone, and Testosterone: The Science of Hormones, Sexual Function, and Menopausee

And what you're going to find is in the testosterone studies where people were given testosterone and then asked to perform various tasks, you're going to see a big variety in whether or not they got a benefit.

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unPAUSED with Dr. Mary Claire Haver
Estrogen, Progesterone, and Testosterone: The Science of Hormones, Sexual Function, and Menopausee

So one study will say

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unPAUSED with Dr. Mary Claire Haver
Estrogen, Progesterone, and Testosterone: The Science of Hormones, Sexual Function, and Menopausee

Okay, they had, you know, verbal memory recall was better, but the shopping list recall wasn't.

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unPAUSED with Dr. Mary Claire Haver
Estrogen, Progesterone, and Testosterone: The Science of Hormones, Sexual Function, and Menopausee

If you gave them numbers, they remembered it, but then the shopping wasn't.

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unPAUSED with Dr. Mary Claire Haver
Estrogen, Progesterone, and Testosterone: The Science of Hormones, Sexual Function, and Menopausee

And they get these really granular outcomes.

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unPAUSED with Dr. Mary Claire Haver
Estrogen, Progesterone, and Testosterone: The Science of Hormones, Sexual Function, and Menopausee

If you look at all the cognition studies together and you look at was this, quote, statistically significant, that means does it look like if there's a benefit, could it have not been due to chance?

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unPAUSED with Dr. Mary Claire Haver
Estrogen, Progesterone, and Testosterone: The Science of Hormones, Sexual Function, and Menopausee

Almost all the studies show that any benefit could have also been due to chance when it comes to cognition.

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unPAUSED with Dr. Mary Claire Haver
Estrogen, Progesterone, and Testosterone: The Science of Hormones, Sexual Function, and Menopausee

That's my takeaway from what the evidence shows.

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unPAUSED with Dr. Mary Claire Haver
Estrogen, Progesterone, and Testosterone: The Science of Hormones, Sexual Function, and Menopausee

But I always talk about the difference between group data and individual data, right?

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unPAUSED with Dr. Mary Claire Haver
Estrogen, Progesterone, and Testosterone: The Science of Hormones, Sexual Function, and Menopausee

If a woman tells me I started taking testosterone and I felt like I could remember my shopping list better and I could remember where I put my keys and that brain fog went away, I'm not going to tell her that that's not true.

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unPAUSED with Dr. Mary Claire Haver
Estrogen, Progesterone, and Testosterone: The Science of Hormones, Sexual Function, and Menopausee

I think you can say that the studies of 100 women, and this is where I know that the other people listening here who go based on all the studies are going to be like, how can you say this?

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unPAUSED with Dr. Mary Claire Haver
Estrogen, Progesterone, and Testosterone: The Science of Hormones, Sexual Function, and Menopausee

Well, this is group data.

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unPAUSED with Dr. Mary Claire Haver
Estrogen, Progesterone, and Testosterone: The Science of Hormones, Sexual Function, and Menopausee

If you take 100 women, you give 50 of them a placebo and 50 of them the medication, there's going to be 20 women in that medication group that did get better.

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unPAUSED with Dr. Mary Claire Haver
Estrogen, Progesterone, and Testosterone: The Science of Hormones, Sexual Function, and Menopausee

And maybe in the placebo group, there's a similar amount.

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unPAUSED with Dr. Mary Claire Haver
Estrogen, Progesterone, and Testosterone: The Science of Hormones, Sexual Function, and Menopausee

That doesn't mean those 20 women didn't get better.

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unPAUSED with Dr. Mary Claire Haver
Estrogen, Progesterone, and Testosterone: The Science of Hormones, Sexual Function, and Menopausee

And so if you look at an individual, they may see an improvement, but across an entire group of people, you didn't see the signal that met significance.

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