Dr. Mary Claire Haver

I'd love to dig in here as well.

So I wear a tracker and, you know, I used to be obsessed.

My husband and I would, you know, Chris and I would wake up in the morning and be like, what'd you get, you know, for our scores?

Because not like I'm so competitive.

Yeah.

And so I, according to Aura, I'm a much better sleeper than my husband.

But, you know, what I never understood were the different phases and how much time I spend.

Most of my deep sleep is early in the night, in the first half of my sleep.

Is that normal?

We had Luis and Nicola on and she talked about the microglia, the small cells, and they shrink during deep sleep and the fluids start pumping through because they can get around and that's cleaning.

Has anybody come to your office, you know, because of a tracker?

Like what would be a positive outcome of a tracker for you?

Okay.

Talk about hormones and their role in sleep regulation.

So we're talking about sex hormones or the PET hormones.

This year at the Menopause Society, you were there, right?

And the incoming president is a psychiatrist, and he did a presentation on sleep.

And at the end, I watched it remotely.

And I was very surprised to hear him say, and I may be quoting him incorrectly,

At the end of the day, it was like, do not recommend progesterone for sleep.