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Dr. Matt Walker

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Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Improve Sleep to Boost Mood & Emotional Regulation

What was the critical ingredient here?

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Improve Sleep to Boost Mood & Emotional Regulation

Well, in the first experiment, I'd essentially manipulated both quantity and quality, the two QQs of the QQRT.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Improve Sleep to Boost Mood & Emotional Regulation

I'd removed the quantity of sleep, and also they had no quality of sleep.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Improve Sleep to Boost Mood & Emotional Regulation

Why?

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Improve Sleep to Boost Mood & Emotional Regulation

Because they had no quantity of sleep.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Improve Sleep to Boost Mood & Emotional Regulation

But when we looked at that day-to-day-to-day, night-to-night-to-night study, it wasn't quantity that was the best predictor.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Improve Sleep to Boost Mood & Emotional Regulation

It wasn't shortening of quantity that determined next day increases in anxiety.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Improve Sleep to Boost Mood & Emotional Regulation

It was quality.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Improve Sleep to Boost Mood & Emotional Regulation

The worse the quality was night-to-night-to-night, the worse their anxiety became.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Improve Sleep to Boost Mood & Emotional Regulation

So that started to lead us to think a lot more about what is it regarding the quality of sleep that seemed to offer when it was present, what I would describe as an anxiolytic benefit.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Improve Sleep to Boost Mood & Emotional Regulation

In other words, it's lessening anxiety.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Improve Sleep to Boost Mood & Emotional Regulation

A lack of sleep is an anxiogenic.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Improve Sleep to Boost Mood & Emotional Regulation

It's going to produce anxiety.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Improve Sleep to Boost Mood & Emotional Regulation

What in sleep is anxiolytic?

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Improve Sleep to Boost Mood & Emotional Regulation

We started off with a hypothesis that was profoundly incorrect.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Improve Sleep to Boost Mood & Emotional Regulation

We thought, well, for emotions, which are these short bursts of affective state, it was REM sleep that seemed to be the principal ingredient.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Improve Sleep to Boost Mood & Emotional Regulation

Well, wouldn't that be the case for mood states?

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Improve Sleep to Boost Mood & Emotional Regulation

Well, here with anxiety, it wasn't.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Improve Sleep to Boost Mood & Emotional Regulation

It was deep non-REM sleep and we couldn't get away from it.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Improve Sleep to Boost Mood & Emotional Regulation

And so what we found was that when we looked at the sleep in the laboratory and asked, what was predictive from the night before?