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Dr. Matt Walker

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
3487 total appearances

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Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Improve Sleep to Boost Mood & Emotional Regulation

Well, in the first experiment, I'd essentially manipulated both quantity and quality, the two QQs of the QQRT.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Improve Sleep to Boost Mood & Emotional Regulation

I'd removed the quantity of sleep, and also they had no quality of sleep.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Improve Sleep to Boost Mood & Emotional Regulation

Why?

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Improve Sleep to Boost Mood & Emotional Regulation

Because they had no quantity of sleep.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Improve Sleep to Boost Mood & Emotional Regulation

But when we looked at that day-to-day-to-day, night-to-night-to-night study, it wasn't quantity that was the best predictor.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Improve Sleep to Boost Mood & Emotional Regulation

It wasn't shortening of quantity that determined next day increases in anxiety.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Improve Sleep to Boost Mood & Emotional Regulation

It was quality.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Improve Sleep to Boost Mood & Emotional Regulation

The worse the quality was night-to-night-to-night, the worse their anxiety became.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Improve Sleep to Boost Mood & Emotional Regulation

So that started to lead us to think a lot more about what is it regarding the quality of sleep that seemed to offer when it was present, what I would describe as an anxiolytic benefit.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Improve Sleep to Boost Mood & Emotional Regulation

In other words, it's lessening anxiety.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Improve Sleep to Boost Mood & Emotional Regulation

A lack of sleep is an anxiogenic.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Improve Sleep to Boost Mood & Emotional Regulation

It's going to produce anxiety.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Improve Sleep to Boost Mood & Emotional Regulation

What in sleep is anxiolytic?

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Improve Sleep to Boost Mood & Emotional Regulation

We started off with a hypothesis that was profoundly incorrect.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Improve Sleep to Boost Mood & Emotional Regulation

We thought, well, for emotions, which are these short bursts of affective state, it was REM sleep that seemed to be the principal ingredient.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Improve Sleep to Boost Mood & Emotional Regulation

Well, wouldn't that be the case for mood states?

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Improve Sleep to Boost Mood & Emotional Regulation

Well, here with anxiety, it wasn't.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Improve Sleep to Boost Mood & Emotional Regulation

It was deep non-REM sleep and we couldn't get away from it.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Improve Sleep to Boost Mood & Emotional Regulation

And so what we found was that when we looked at the sleep in the laboratory and asked, what was predictive from the night before?

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Improve Sleep to Boost Mood & Emotional Regulation

So you measure your anxiety the night before, and then we measure it the next morning.