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Dr. Matt Walker

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Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

As long as I can fumble my way back to my mattress,

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

I'm going to be asleep within another two minutes going back to it.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

Whereas for you, you probably wake up and you feel pretty wide awake.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

I would like to see what happens when we negate that afternoon coffee on the frequency and the duration of those middle of the night awakenings for you.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

Yeah.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

So caffeine has something that we call a half-life of about five to six hours, meaning that after five to six hours, about 50% of that caffeine is still circulating in your bloodstream and thus your brain.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

That means that caffeine has a quarter-life of somewhere between 10 to 12 hours.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

Now, this is on average, and we'll come back to variations later.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

But think of it this way.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

If you're taking a cup of coffee, like you described there, at midday, and then you're going to bed at, let's say 11 or midnight, that would be the equivalent, based on what I've just told you, the quarter life

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

of getting yourself into bed.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

And just before you took yourself into bed, you swig a quarter of a cup of coffee and you hope for a good night of sleep.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

And the chances are that it may not happen.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

Now, again, that's a little bit sort of hyperbolic as a statement, but just try to conceptualize it in that way.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

You would never think about taking on, you know, a last quarter cup of coffee just before you put your eye mask on.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

And that no problem is in part this, I don't have an issue with falling asleep.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

But if we were to, based on the data, map their electrical brain activity...

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

you would be able to see this reduction in the deep non-REM sleep.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

And it can reduce it if you look at the data somewhere between 15% to 20%.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

Now, for me to reduce your deep sleep by 15% to 20%, I would probably have to age you by about 20% to 22% years.