Dr. Matt Walker

And just as we spoke about earlier in this episode, you need to drop your body temperature to get to sleep.

So I think that's the second reason.

I think the third reason is that it could have a direct sleep promoting mechanism

I think it's unclear right now exactly how it's interacting with the sleep machinery of the brain.

We've got some hypotheses.

The danger is, again, it's just not a well-regulated substance.

So I am actually just full disclosure, I'm working with a company in the United Kingdom in collaboration with...

King's College and the Institute of Psychiatry there to see if we can create an analog, a clean analog of CBD.

But I think the potential upside of it, not just for sleep, but for a number of different psychiatric conditions like anxiety, could be beneficial.

So I would say that that's right now the sort of the skinny on THC and CBD.

Yeah, and I would only say that try to resist if you can.

If you really want your bedroom to be the place where you now become consistently asleep, try not to start sleeping in some other location consistently because then all of a sudden you bond that with good sleep and you...

unbuckle this notion that we're trying to relearn, which is, no, your bedroom is the place of sleep.

So it's fine to go elsewhere.

Try to stay awake and force yourself to stay awake until you are absolutely sleepy, then go back to bed.

Yeah, do the Huberman taper is what I'm going to call it right now, which is not an interpretive dance.

It's simply the caffeine taper.

And I think CBD, you know...

has promise and research must try harder, including my own.

That's right.