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Dr. Matt Walker

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Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

Don't worry, I'll keep it PG again.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

And then the next thing that they did was connect a rotating arm to that bed at the side of the bed.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

And that arm would start to simply just push the bed laterally from left to right, left to right.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

And they started just swinging the bed in a very controlled manner.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

But here, and I should ask Sophie exactly why they made this choice.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

They were rotating the bed, not at this sort of around one Hertz, which is what we'd done with electrical stimulation or acoustic stimulation.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

They were doing it at 0.25 hertz, which is much slower still.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

Almost imperceptibly.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

That is rocking, you know, once every four seconds.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

It's a very slow lull.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

And sure enough, what they found in the first series of studies, they did a nap study, a 90-minute nap study.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

When you did this rocking motion versus when the bed was still, they increased the speed with which people fell asleep.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

They boosted the amount of deep sleep and they boosted the amount of those sleep spindle oscillations that we described.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

Not satisfied, they then said, well, what happens across a night of sleep?

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

They did it then across a night of sleep.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

They replicated the same findings and now they got a memory benefit.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

Now the memory benefit you could argue is modest.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

It was 10% of a memory improvement benefit when you woke up from sleep relative to the already sizable benefit that sleep naturally gives when you're not rocking the bed.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

But you think, well, 10%, if I were, let's say a student and I got, you know, a B and someone, the professor said, look, by the way, there is something that you can do and we can increase your grade by 10% and you can get to an A or an A plus depending on the grading system.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

Would you take it?