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GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Science of Dreams, Nightmares & Lucid Dreaming
First, they showed you lots of very specific images, images of cars, of women, of houses, of men, of dogs, of cats, of just a whole category of different visual elements.
Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Science of Dreams, Nightmares & Lucid Dreaming
and your brain was being scanned as you're awake watching each of these.
Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Science of Dreams, Nightmares & Lucid Dreaming
And then using this clever analysis, they were able to build up this very specific pattern, this very specific template of activity that for you, Andrew Huberman, said he is now looking specifically at a set of keys, or he was looking at a car, or he was looking at a woman, or a man, or a house.
Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Science of Dreams, Nightmares & Lucid Dreaming
And we knew ground truth in terms of what your brain looks like when it is seeing these different categories.
Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Science of Dreams, Nightmares & Lucid Dreaming
And then they did something clever.
Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Science of Dreams, Nightmares & Lucid Dreaming
Then they let those individuals sleep and go into REM sleep.
Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Science of Dreams, Nightmares & Lucid Dreaming
And then they started waking them up and getting dream reports.
Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Science of Dreams, Nightmares & Lucid Dreaming
But once they got the dream reports, the analysis sort of team remained blind to those reports.
Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Science of Dreams, Nightmares & Lucid Dreaming
What they did was almost like a forensic team that goes hunting for DNA at a crime scene.
Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Science of Dreams, Nightmares & Lucid Dreaming
They had the DNA and they started going around and searching to see if they could find a DNA match.
Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Science of Dreams, Nightmares & Lucid Dreaming
but here they weren't using the DNA.
Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Science of Dreams, Nightmares & Lucid Dreaming
They were using these templates of a woman's face or a car or a house.
Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Science of Dreams, Nightmares & Lucid Dreaming
And they would search through this electrical, this brain activity, sort of static of your dreams at night and find these matches.
Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Science of Dreams, Nightmares & Lucid Dreaming
And then we could wake you up, get the dream report and see how well did our brain performing a sort of algorithm
Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Science of Dreams, Nightmares & Lucid Dreaming
match with your actual subjective report when you came out.
Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Science of Dreams, Nightmares & Lucid Dreaming
And it was stunning how close.
Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Science of Dreams, Nightmares & Lucid Dreaming
So I could tell you were dreaming, but you were also dreaming about a house and a car.
Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Science of Dreams, Nightmares & Lucid Dreaming
You're dreaming about a woman, it turns out.
Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Science of Dreams, Nightmares & Lucid Dreaming
And we started to want your dreams, as I said, were your own.
Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Science of Dreams, Nightmares & Lucid Dreaming
But now