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Dr. Matthew Walker

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GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Science of Dreams, Nightmares & Lucid Dreaming

It's the reason that Freud remains to this day, because we can't...

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GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Science of Dreams, Nightmares & Lucid Dreaming

put him in a way in a box and say, we've disproven him, but we equally will never be able to prove him.

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GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Science of Dreams, Nightmares & Lucid Dreaming

And therefore he's been in some ways let go in hard science as being representative.

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GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Science of Dreams, Nightmares & Lucid Dreaming

His theory, which we don't need to get into, which was called disguised censorship is

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GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Science of Dreams, Nightmares & Lucid Dreaming

was really a very interesting proposition, which was that there was something about our dreams that was veiled and masked.

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GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Science of Dreams, Nightmares & Lucid Dreaming

And Freud believed that he understood the decryption code to our dreams.

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GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Science of Dreams, Nightmares & Lucid Dreaming

And if you tell him your dream, he has the special filter that he can pull that dream through the filter and magically out on the other side is the true meaning of that dream.

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GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Science of Dreams, Nightmares & Lucid Dreaming

There are several problems with that theory, not least of which I think at the time, if you look at his writings, it seemed that Freud was probably doing enough cocaine to kill a small horse at the time, but we'll put that aside for a second.

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GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Science of Dreams, Nightmares & Lucid Dreaming

The issue there is that it's not very replicable as an analysis method.

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GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Science of Dreams, Nightmares & Lucid Dreaming

And there's a fascinating study that was, I remember from a conference, I should check to see if it's been fully published.

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GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Science of Dreams, Nightmares & Lucid Dreaming

And they did something clever.

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GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Science of Dreams, Nightmares & Lucid Dreaming

They took the Freudian method and they took a single dream from one individual and they had

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GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Science of Dreams, Nightmares & Lucid Dreaming

three Freudian psychoanalysts analyze that dream.

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GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Science of Dreams, Nightmares & Lucid Dreaming

So it was the same dream, but three different analysts.

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GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Science of Dreams, Nightmares & Lucid Dreaming

Now in a scientific protocol, if it's a scientifically rigorous assessment tool, you would get back the very same answer from that measurement technique all three times or very similar.

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GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Science of Dreams, Nightmares & Lucid Dreaming

So for example, a carbon dating machine,

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GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Science of Dreams, Nightmares & Lucid Dreaming

If I were to take a fossil and put it in a carbon dating machine and then another one and another one, for the most part, they're probably going to return something that's much more similar than different in terms of the carbon date of that fossil.

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GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Science of Dreams, Nightmares & Lucid Dreaming

Why?

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GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Science of Dreams, Nightmares & Lucid Dreaming

Because it's been very well validated and replicated.

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GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Science of Dreams, Nightmares & Lucid Dreaming

That's what you want from a scientific method and tool.