Dr. Matthew Walker

That's right. And to me, that's one of the exciting parts of it. Because it's treatable. Is that it's both treatable and it's a novel, you know, is it a novel sleep aid pathway? I don't know. I don't know if it's powerful enough to come close to that. It may not be.

I mean, I love to see the data. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's interesting. I'm not trying to be too skeptical because as scientists and doctors, you and I both know absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. So don't judge too quick. But right now, I think the jury's out. Yeah, for sure.

I mean, I love to see the data. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's interesting. I'm not trying to be too skeptical because as scientists and doctors, you and I both know absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. So don't judge too quick. But right now, I think the jury's out. Yeah, for sure.

I mean, I love to see the data. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's interesting. I'm not trying to be too skeptical because as scientists and doctors, you and I both know absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. So don't judge too quick. But right now, I think the jury's out. Yeah, for sure.

Yeah, when you have sleep disruption, yeah.

Yeah, when you have sleep disruption, yeah.

Yeah, when you have sleep disruption, yeah.

And Alzheimer's disease, there's some really fascinating data regarding... inflammation and Alzheimer's disease as a causal relationship now. Quite striking. Quite striking.

And Alzheimer's disease, there's some really fascinating data regarding... inflammation and Alzheimer's disease as a causal relationship now. Quite striking. Quite striking.

And Alzheimer's disease, there's some really fascinating data regarding... inflammation and Alzheimer's disease as a causal relationship now. Quite striking. Quite striking.

And so, and I think we don't yet know what's happening with tau, which is the other tau protein, which is the other sort of culprit there with inflammation. I suspect it may be the same story. It may be even more powerfully explanatory of cognition.

And so, and I think we don't yet know what's happening with tau, which is the other tau protein, which is the other sort of culprit there with inflammation. I suspect it may be the same story. It may be even more powerfully explanatory of cognition.

And so, and I think we don't yet know what's happening with tau, which is the other tau protein, which is the other sort of culprit there with inflammation. I suspect it may be the same story. It may be even more powerfully explanatory of cognition.

But, you know, it's all of this just once again teaches us, I think you and I, maybe people listening that for so long in medicine and science, we took the a siloed organ or system-specific approach. I was a cardiologist. I was a neurologist. I was an immunologist. We are an embodied species, brain and body combined. I'm an everything-ologist. Yeah, exactly.

But, you know, it's all of this just once again teaches us, I think you and I, maybe people listening that for so long in medicine and science, we took the a siloed organ or system-specific approach. I was a cardiologist. I was a neurologist. I was an immunologist. We are an embodied species, brain and body combined. I'm an everything-ologist. Yeah, exactly.

But, you know, it's all of this just once again teaches us, I think you and I, maybe people listening that for so long in medicine and science, we took the a siloed organ or system-specific approach. I was a cardiologist. I was a neurologist. I was an immunologist. We are an embodied species, brain and body combined. I'm an everything-ologist. Yeah, exactly.

And that's what, if your doctor says that,

And that's what, if your doctor says that,

And that's what, if your doctor says that,

Fundamental. Yeah. I mean, and during sleep, we have a metabolic reduction. Part of the... One of perhaps the restorative functions of sleep is to have a metabolic downturn to a degree. But I think the other point is there is... You spoke about all of these different, I'm a multi-system doctor.