Dr. Maya Shankar

Exactly.

Exactly.

I think that's completely right.

I think that's completely right.

First of all, I'm so grateful that you share stories like that because I think in the same way that when you see someone's Instagram feed, you're seeing the highlights reel, when you read someone's bio, you're not looking at all of the moments in which they failed and they were challenged.

First of all, I'm so grateful that you share stories like that because I think in the same way that when you see someone's Instagram feed, you're seeing the highlights reel, when you read someone's bio, you're not looking at all of the moments in which they failed and they were challenged.

I almost want all of our bios to say, and then I tried this and it didn't go anywhere, and then I tried this and I failed or I was rejected because

I almost want all of our bios to say, and then I tried this and it didn't go anywhere, and then I tried this and I failed or I was rejected because

I think one, it humanizes people and it allows people to see the path is never linear.

I think one, it humanizes people and it allows people to see the path is never linear.

It's going to have so many twists and turns and it's having, you know, perseverance and trying to build self-confidence at those critical junctures that ultimately can lead you to thrive.

It's going to have so many twists and turns and it's having, you know, perseverance and trying to build self-confidence at those critical junctures that ultimately can lead you to thrive.

Yeah, so interesting.

Yeah, so interesting.

I mean, I thought, oh, the challenge has ended when I convinced them to give me this job.

I mean, I thought, oh, the challenge has ended when I convinced them to give me this job.

But actually, that wasn't the case at all.

But actually, that wasn't the case at all.

So on day one, I decided, based on the advice of my boss, that instead of just focusing on the impact that I as one person could have while in government, it might be far more worth it to actually build up an institution that

So on day one, I decided, based on the advice of my boss, that instead of just focusing on the impact that I as one person could have while in government, it might be far more worth it to actually build up an institution that