Dr. Michael Grandner

If we go through with somebody and their environment is fine, their sleep continuity is fine.

They're falling asleep fine.

They're sleeping through the night.

There's no medical reason that's preventing them from getting deep sleep at all.

My perspective on it is don't worry about it.

Your body's doing what it wants to do on its terms.

If it wanted more, if it needed more, it would take it, but it doesn't.

So forcing it may or may not be a good thing anyway.

Yeah, yeah.

So that was a term developed and invented by a colleague of mine, Kelly Barron.

She's at the University of Utah.

She's like me.

She studies sleep and sleep health and wearables and stuff.

And so she came up with this idea, putting a name to what we would see in clinic of people who overly fixated on the data.

To the point of where it was sort of like orthorexia was the idea, um, where people are obsessing over food ingredients, where it's like.

You're missing the point here.

The degree of information that these data are giving you is not the level of precision you should be using that could even give you to be obsessing to this level of detail.

These are rough estimates.

It's a fuzzy picture at best.

It's a fuzzy picture that's probably true, but it's still a fuzzy picture.