Dr. Michael Kilgard

We did these experiments, like you said, with television, 200 channels.

We did this experiment with the radio.

We did this experiment with the printing press when suddenly you could go into a library and just – there were books everywhere.

What would that do to people?

And I'm generally an optimist.

You probably already tell.

Humanity's done pretty good so far.

The last hundred technologies didn't end things, whether it was machine guns or nuclear war or weapons.

So I'm cautiously optimistic, but I think we will rebalance, and it won't necessarily be someone telling us.

It'll be people figuring out

I don't feel good when I use this.

So both my son and daughter routinely mention to me when they turn off apps, remove, pick your social media, they just need a break.

And I think that's, again, a sign that people individually have enough autonomy to figure out for themselves what's working and what's not.

But it would be good to have a body of knowledge to reinforce that and make it feel okay.

You're not missing out.

You're not punished because you turned this off for a few days or weeks.

But there are consequences.

Yeah, yeah.

I mean, there's a bunch of things that brings to mind.

One is...