Dr. Michael Kilgard

And we often don't know that for many, many years.

We think things that are very valuable happen.

initially turn out not to be so valuable.

I always think of the Pope with a flask of God knows what, but I think it was cocaine, or Sigmund Freud, or whatever else.

Taking these substances, just fully convinced I found the right thing.

It is my understanding, again, this is one of the things I learned in Catholic school, but yeah, there were many people who thought many of these elixirs were really, really powerful agents that were going to be useful.

And later, people just said, it's not working for me.

Most people learn, yeah, you can drink your way out of a bad relationship, but it's not really going to solve the problem.

I've got to do other real work.

So there's a lot of short-term solutions is my point, and the question now is how is it going to work long-term?

If we're getting through a crisis where someone is immediately suicidal, we've got to get them to that point, and we will do whatever it takes to get them to that point.

Now we're in the intermediate phase, but a year later, how are we doing?

It remains to be seen.

We're not yet years post trying these agents.

We're only now trying them because they're listed as Schedule 1.

They cannot possibly be used because we tried them in the 50s.

We have done a bunch of those experiments.

Much of this work is funded by the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, DARPA.

And they're looking for ways to enhance learning.

It was called the TNT program.