Dr. Michael Ormsbee

And they're very good at it.

And they're very good at it.

Yeah. And so that right there was it because some people don't like the consistency of cottage cheese. They don't like the consistency of a casein shake. They're different. Yep. And so mouthfeel makes a big difference. If you don't want to drink it, you won't do it. Yeah. If someone says, I love casein, I'm like, go for it.

Yeah. And so that right there was it because some people don't like the consistency of cottage cheese. They don't like the consistency of a casein shake. They're different. Yep. And so mouthfeel makes a big difference. If you don't want to drink it, you won't do it. Yeah. If someone says, I love casein, I'm like, go for it.

Generally, it's saying the same thing from everything that I've been a part of or read.

Generally, it's saying the same thing from everything that I've been a part of or read.

Generally, it's the same. Unfortunately, one of my own studies contradicted the time of day thing. We did that with Andrew McKeown. This is science. In Australia, but we had some limitations to that study with time of day of exercise and performance. But in general, what you're saying is accurate. One of the interesting things about this is it keeps evolving.

Generally, it's the same. Unfortunately, one of my own studies contradicted the time of day thing. We did that with Andrew McKeown. This is science. In Australia, but we had some limitations to that study with time of day of exercise and performance. But in general, what you're saying is accurate. One of the interesting things about this is it keeps evolving.

There's still a couple of things we don't know. And we're trying to work on it. So one of the things we've done over this time is given one-off feeding. And we've usually had sleep as a secondary or tertiary aim, if at all. And so we finally designed one for sleep specifically. And the thing we've done this time is we're giving three nights in a row of the feeding instead of one night.

There's still a couple of things we don't know. And we're trying to work on it. So one of the things we've done over this time is given one-off feeding. And we've usually had sleep as a secondary or tertiary aim, if at all. And so we finally designed one for sleep specifically. And the thing we've done this time is we're giving three nights in a row of the feeding instead of one night.

So that if you have an off or an on night, just by chance, we're not picking it up as artifact. That we can hopefully get a better number of nights involved with this. And it's a lot of work because there's nighttime things involved.

So that if you have an off or an on night, just by chance, we're not picking it up as artifact. That we can hopefully get a better number of nights involved with this. And it's a lot of work because there's nighttime things involved.

So we're doing that right now, and we're doing that in Division I female athletes, which is fantastic. So that's ongoing this whole academic year. So we should have some answers on that next year. We also put a CGM on them so we could continually monitor how glucose fluctuations are occurring through the day and through the night. over this period of time.

So we're doing that right now, and we're doing that in Division I female athletes, which is fantastic. So that's ongoing this whole academic year. So we should have some answers on that next year. We also put a CGM on them so we could continually monitor how glucose fluctuations are occurring through the day and through the night. over this period of time.

And then the last thing I'll say about that, which is really, I think the way that it's going, there's a new player in the protein world in pre-sleep feeding.

And then the last thing I'll say about that, which is really, I think the way that it's going, there's a new player in the protein world in pre-sleep feeding.

It's not. It's new to this space. So it's being marketed for sleep. It's called alpha-lactalbumin. It's, again, fractionated from dairy protein. Now, I was unfamiliar with it. And it's actually very common. It's in mother's milk. And so it's in infant formula powders. And it's high in tryptophan. And so linking those together, someone said high tryptophan, baby's sleeping, maybe adult's sleeping.

It's not. It's new to this space. So it's being marketed for sleep. It's called alpha-lactalbumin. It's, again, fractionated from dairy protein. Now, I was unfamiliar with it. And it's actually very common. It's in mother's milk. And so it's in infant formula powders. And it's high in tryptophan. And so linking those together, someone said high tryptophan, baby's sleeping, maybe adult's sleeping.

Let's fractionate it, bottle it on its own, and give that to people. And so there's already been two studies on it. And both of those were in Australian rugby. And both of those showed a benefit on sleep outcomes.

Let's fractionate it, bottle it on its own, and give that to people. And so there's already been two studies on it. And both of those were in Australian rugby. And both of those showed a benefit on sleep outcomes.