Dr. Nancy Siegel

And that's the problem because from what I've seen, there's nothing so terribly secret in them.

But when you don't release something, that creates all kinds of ideas in mind.

Now, the twins have had difficulty, and the current status of it is that they can get them, but they first have to see a psychiatrist or a psychologist.

Why that is, I'll never know.

These are people who are interested in their past.

The data were taken from them without their consent or their parents' consent.

And to me, they should have complete access to everything.

But they have to go through a whole rigmarole.

The collection is now run by Yale University, but it actually was put there by the Jewish Board of Family and Child Services in New York City.

That's where Peter Neubauer was the child development specialist.

And they said at the Jewish board that researchers like me can apply to get access.

And I've applied twice and been turned down twice.

So I think that's just not anything that's even real.

I think they just did that to show that they're being generous.

But I think that...

The reason why Viola Bernard and Peter Neubauer kept the study kind of secret, they were upset when somebody learned about it outside their little circle of psychoanalysts in New York City.

Because I think at a certain level, they knew they were doing something wrong.

They knew that.

And they just wanted to kind of bury it.

And I am willing to bet you that there are twins out there who don't know that they were part of this experiment.