Dr Oliver Moore

The fact that Britain has targets for growing its domestic base, we don't have those targets.

How can you really be food secure if you're not even paying attention to growing domestic markets?

Yeah, well, Ireland is so specific because of our

Our colonial history, we just ended up being a place that stuff was taken from and sent around the world.

And we kind of kept that system going.

So we export nine times more meat and milk than we could ever consume.

And we have 70-odd vegetable producers at the field scale.

Below that, there is a level.

There are a couple of hundred, possibly, local food producers at a smaller scale who really need support and could be

helped up.

We don't have a diversified agri-food system in Ireland.

That's kind of the problem.

I mean, the scale of global trade we're at, we're obviously still going to keep trading to some extent.

It's just that we're not actually building in proper resilience.

And like, you know, the last chat you had was about housing.

I mean, we need housing, fuel and food

sovereignty these days rather than just relying on hoping it's going to work out well with the markets because the things that are happening now you know are shocking to people as they were six months ago as they were six months before that so we just we we're we're like we're we're low on infrastructure but high on income uh we don't have a proper

food culture because it was destroyed by colonisation in the first place and then it was never built back properly.

In, like, Borbia, I would say, aren't really doing enough to build a domestic economy, like, of agri-food because they're focused exclusively now on origin green.

There isn't a small producer support section, really.