Dr. Patrick Soon-Shiong
๐ค SpeakerAppearances Over Time
Podcast Appearances
Oh my God, you're singing my tune. Exactly. I've been saying this since 2020. Think about this.
And without... breaking the news here, now is not the right time. I think that is actually a subject of real necessary investigation, not in any political statement, not in a gotcha type of statement, but really looking at investigative facts. And sadly, I was right in the middle of that. I was... Part of warp speed. And I got dewarped.
And without... breaking the news here, now is not the right time. I think that is actually a subject of real necessary investigation, not in any political statement, not in a gotcha type of statement, but really looking at investigative facts. And sadly, I was right in the middle of that. I was... Part of warp speed. And I got dewarped.
And that is a subject of future discussion, which I think... Dewarp because you weren't... Hang on.
And that is a subject of future discussion, which I think... Dewarp because you weren't... Hang on.
Because it's so complex. It requires, you know, I think these are the danger when you have, and that's why I love this long forms, because the danger of shorts. soundbites where people then take the wrong impression. I think the thought long discussion, I think, you know, a couple of hours of congressional hearing should, should happen with facts. Yes.
Because it's so complex. It requires, you know, I think these are the danger when you have, and that's why I love this long forms, because the danger of shorts. soundbites where people then take the wrong impression. I think the thought long discussion, I think, you know, a couple of hours of congressional hearing should, should happen with facts. Yes.
Yeah, but it's scientifically, technically very complex. So we need to actually first have it with all the scientists, because I'm so deeply involved with this idea of COVID and long COVID. I'm not only worried about long COVID, I think I understand why we're getting long COVID, your idea about spike, this thing called spikeopathy.
Yeah, but it's scientifically, technically very complex. So we need to actually first have it with all the scientists, because I'm so deeply involved with this idea of COVID and long COVID. I'm not only worried about long COVID, I think I understand why we're getting long COVID, your idea about spike, this thing called spikeopathy.
the idea that the the spike could come either from the vaccine or from the covert virus itself and if it comes from the vaccine does it break off and does it actually replicate if it replicates does it persist if it persists and replicates in certain part of tissue does it reduce what they call p53 is it then a harbinger of cancer is it going to act like hepatitis and hpv god forbid
the idea that the the spike could come either from the vaccine or from the covert virus itself and if it comes from the vaccine does it break off and does it actually replicate if it replicates does it persist if it persists and replicates in certain part of tissue does it reduce what they call p53 is it then a harbinger of cancer is it going to act like hepatitis and hpv god forbid
where, in fact, five years or 10 years from now, is it potentially the explanation why I'm seeing 8-year-old, 10-year-old, 11-year-olds with colon cancer? Why did I see patients with 13-year-old metastatic pancreatic cancer? These are questions that need to be very importantly asked.
where, in fact, five years or 10 years from now, is it potentially the explanation why I'm seeing 8-year-old, 10-year-old, 11-year-olds with colon cancer? Why did I see patients with 13-year-old metastatic pancreatic cancer? These are questions that need to be very importantly asked.
All are possible. Is it red dye? Is it PFAS? Is it all of the above? Is it all preventable? And is it all treatable? At the end of the day, I'm a surgeon. I want to treat it. I want to know, okay, fine. What can we do to prevent it? How can we treat it?
All are possible. Is it red dye? Is it PFAS? Is it all of the above? Is it all preventable? And is it all treatable? At the end of the day, I'm a surgeon. I want to treat it. I want to know, okay, fine. What can we do to prevent it? How can we treat it?
And now we come back again to the cancer vaccine or come back to treatment of HIV, come back to treatment of autoimmune diseases, which again was what I spent my last 25 years of my life trying to do. And to answer the fact that we are close, which is exciting, is too complex. And it's not something I can do over soundbite. I try to do this over Twitter where I call connecting the dots.
And now we come back again to the cancer vaccine or come back to treatment of HIV, come back to treatment of autoimmune diseases, which again was what I spent my last 25 years of my life trying to do. And to answer the fact that we are close, which is exciting, is too complex. And it's not something I can do over soundbite. I try to do this over Twitter where I call connecting the dots.
And there's too many dots to connect. And the idea is I'll try to put this over X and connect the dots. But let me tell you something profound and very simple. Something profound is as follows. When you get chemotherapy, let's talk about cancer, for example. When you get chemotherapy, the first thing it wipes out is your red blood cells. You have anemia. And there's a drug for that called epigen.
And there's too many dots to connect. And the idea is I'll try to put this over X and connect the dots. But let me tell you something profound and very simple. Something profound is as follows. When you get chemotherapy, let's talk about cancer, for example. When you get chemotherapy, the first thing it wipes out is your red blood cells. You have anemia. And there's a drug for that called epigen.
The second thing it wipes out is cells called neutrophils that prevent infection. And there's a drug for that called neupogen. But the most important thing that wipes out is your NK and T cells, and that's called lymphocytes. So Drew, I'd like you to test this with your oncology friends and say, when you do a CBC, which is a standard blood test, what do you look for to treat your patient?